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1. IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by AndyDrummond Jan 03, 2011
• 4016 views

I have to admit I am a very lazy Euphoria for Win XP programmer. I use Judith's IDE (EuVIDE) & Win32Lib. But yes, I ought to change to Eu4 but if I'm going to do that I really really want IDE to run under 4. Thus far it doesn't unless I have fouled something up.
Is there going to be a IDE4 on the way soon? I think Derek was going to look at it but it strikes me as being a huge job. If there is, I shall hang fire on Eu4 for now, but if not I suppose I had better bite the bullet and look at some of the other IDE type programs to work with Eu4 - like wxIDE. So ... anything happening on the IDE front?

3. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Jan 03, 2011
• 4080 views

While we're waiting, I've taken the liberty of grabbing the latest EuVIDE from http://sourceforge.net/projects/euvide/files/IdeZip/IDE1-0-4/IDE1-0-4.zip/download

and run a modified version of David Cuny's concat.ex on it (since I'm on linux/GNU, I had to modify it to make it smart enough to figure out filenames based on case-insensitivity among other things).

This single file version only relies on the basic 3.1.1 includes and win32lib.ew - all the other includes have been combined into a single file.

Note that you'll still need to download the IDE.zip file since there are some external files used (like Languages/English.lng or the graphics in Resources/ )

Just copy this IDE.exw over the one in the extracted directory.

I'm hoping that this version will run on 4.0 with Derek's 4.0 compatible win32lib. (The only 4.0 keyword I saw used was function insert(), which I renamed to insert_() .) This file should continue to run on 3.1.1 as well.

I've also made a small change in IDE.exw so it will use euiw.exe instead of exw.exe - making it work with a 4.0 installation.

You can get it here: http://malcom.unkmar.com/lostsouls/IDE.exw

Or, if you want to have the IDE use exw.exe instead, I have a version without that change available here: http://malcom.unkmar.com/lostsouls/IDEall.exw

Note that since I'm on Linux/GNU, these files are completely untested.

5. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Jan 04, 2011
• 3699 views

C:\euphoria\BEIDE\IDE.exw:94 
Normal_35 has not been declared 
openWindow(splash, Normal_35) 
                           ^ 

It seems my folly was trying to combine the IDE without including win32lib. That causes the error you are seeing. (What happens is that without access to win32lib, it gets confused and thinks every global symbols exported by win32lib is actually a local symbol in each file. Then it tries to rename the local symbols differently to avoid naming conflicts, with disasterous results.)

I've redone IDEall.exw with win32lb v0.70.20, then discovered that win32lib enjoy doing tricks like reusing the same name as a local and a global symbol and sometimes declaring a global symbol twice in different files.

I'm still working on getting this fixed.

7. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Jan 04, 2011
• 3704 views

I've made a small change (again, untested - if I could test this myself I would have!).

http://malcom.unkmar.com/lostsouls/IDE-euphoric.exw has the 3-line change to use euiw.exe instead of exw.exe

9. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by AndyDrummond Jan 05, 2011
• 3540 views

Yay! I got it from the file above and installed it. With some difficulty it ran.

I changed the extension to .exw4, and associated that with euiw.exe, but when I tried it run it it ran BitTorrent instead. In the end I simply created a shortcut and put in the explicit command c:\Euphoria40\bin\euiw.exe c:\euphoria40\ide4\ide4.exw4 and it ran. Hooray - I thought!

However, when I opened the Options to set things like opening maximized, most of the textual fields are just black rectangles. Which isn't a lot of use. I don't know if this is a problem with IDE, Eu4, my Eu3 + Eu4 installation, or what. Does anyone have any good ideas?

Then, if I ran the simplest program, it aborts with "CreateProcessHi failed". This I assume is a problem with installation - again do any of you worthy gentlemen have any thoughts?

Otherwise clearly we are getting somewhere. Judging by the number of reads of this thread there is a considerable interest in this being made to work.

11. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Jan 05, 2011
• 3453 views

Unless, of course, AndyDrummond is using 3.1.1 only and doesn't have 4.0.0 installed. In which case, the latest IDE update will attempt to run euiw.exe and have the CreateProcessHi fail because euiw.exe doesn't exist and exw.exe isn't tried.

13. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 05, 2011
• 3458 views

I've compiled the IDE using Euphoria 4.0.0.

It can be downloaded here.

The text labels on the Options dialog look normal! No black bars. So that's nice.

15. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by AndyDrummond Jan 05, 2011
• 3416 views

I may be dumb but not quite that dumb. I hope. I installed Eu4 from the latest installer, and am under the impression that the two variants use different methods to point to their includes etc. So I made my shortcut execute the Eu4 version of euiw.exe (should I just use eui.exe?) in the Eu bin folder. Ah - I actually mentioned what I had done. But maybe when the IDE tried to execute a program it was executing the wrong binaries? I don't know. Installing two versions of code to run in parallel is always a source of problems.

Anyway, I have now got the executable IDE - always the best way to go, IMHO - and will try that out. If I get a daft result then I will know it is a problem with paths etc. I really really want to keep Eu3 and its IDE in service because I have about 50 programs I have to play with occasionally. While I want to shift to IDE4 I do need this backward capability. Anyway we will see how it goes.

Thanks for all your efforts, though - much appreciated. Shame we're not all as smart as you guys .......

17. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 05, 2011
• 3344 views

Try downloading the ZIP archive and running it from in there... OR, use the files it wants from the archive in your own file path. I think there are two files it's gonna need, the one being that English.lng file and another once you give it the English.lng file.

19. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 05, 2011
• 3356 views

Is that hard-coded in there? I don't think so. I'm not at a PC where I can check at the moment... but search the source in IDE.exw for euiw.exe and see if the path is hard-coded. If not, then it might be because you don't have Eu4 configured right. Have you got something like "-eudir c:\eu40\" in your eu.cfg file (where -eudir points to your Eu4 installation path)?

21. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 05, 2011
• 3349 views

The IDE doesn't need to know about eu.cfg.

euiw.exe wants to use eu.cfg (I guess this should be irrelevant with the compiled exe). If it can't find eu.cfg, then it probably looks at the system EUDIR variable. If you don't have eu.cfg, then you might not be able to run IDE from source (with euiw.exe).

But, I'm not at a PC where I can test right now... :/

23. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by mattlewis (admin) Jan 06, 2011
• 3308 views

-i C:\euphoria40\include 
 
[all] 
-i C:\euphoria40\include 
 

The include path options in your example eu.cfg tell the euphoria interpreter (translator, binder) where to look for include files. You can have lots of these, so that you don't end up throwing all of your favorite third party libraries into a single directory.

Finding the interpreter's executable, however, is a completely different thing. I haven't looked at the guts of the Win32Lib IDE in a long time, but ideally this would be easily configurable by the user. The easiest way to hack this in would probably be to manually edit whatever config information the IDE itself saves (assuming it does this), and load the information from there. Better would be to add some interface from within the IDE itself to configure this (wxIDE, e.g., does this, and, in fact, allows for a 'main' and 'alternate' interpreter to be used).

Alternatively, if the IDE is using the value of $EUDIR to find the interpreter, you can use the -eudir option to specify. This would be easy if running the IDE via source. Otherwise, you'd need to use it when you translate the IDE, and then, of course, the path is once again hard coded to whatever you put down.

Matt

25. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by mattlewis (admin) Jan 06, 2011
• 3295 views

I don't think that it does, but I believe that when you pass that on the command line (or in a config file) euphoria uses your value instead of the environment.

Matt

27. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 06, 2011
• 3236 views

More wonderful clues! :)

Okay, so I've changed the way the IDE runs your program. Before, it would get the fully-qualified path to your interpreter by using the EUDIR environment var. With Eu4, there's no such thing (or not need be). I've added an INI file in which you can tell the IDE what interpreter to use. Check out the file "which_interpreter.ini."

So now it just runs "euiw yourprogramhere.exw," without the path. This works just fine so long as the path to your interpreter is in your %PATH%.

(It seems there are other references to the interpreter elsewhere in the code, but I haven't needed to worry about those just yet.)

Anyway, I've updated the source code archive at my site with these latest changes. The executable will be uploaded in about half an hour... the time it takes to compile the project. :O

Let me know if you have any problems.

29. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 06, 2011
• 3238 views

Ran into a problem compiling the IDE. Here's the error text:

Compiling  98% init-2.c 
Linking 100% C:\Program Files\win32lib-ide\ide.exe 
Warning! W1008: cannot open graph.lib : No such file or directory 
Error! E2028: internal_general_call_back_ is an undefined reference 
Unable to link C:\Program Files\win32lib-ide\ide.exe 
Status: 1 Command: wlink @ide.lnk 

Jim or anybody else know what's wrong there?

Just remember that you can't run Eu4 code with the Eu3 interpreter, nor vice versa, unless you're very careful.

Yeah, that would be nice!

31. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Jan 06, 2011
• 3208 views

Here:

c:\Program Files\win32lib-ide>eui -v 
Euphoria Interpreter v4.0.0 development 
   Windows, Using Managed Memory 
   Revision Date: 2011-01-05 19:28:06, Id: 4498:3adb56cff9b1 

33. Re: IDE for Eu4?

• Posted by SDPringle Jan 10, 2011
• 2807 views

The required Euphoria version should be in the project file. The EUPHORIA version should be on a per project basis. EUPHORIA 4.0 gets confused if EUDIR is set to a 3.1 directory when -eudir is not being used at the command line or the eu.cfg. Now, -eudir is not used in 4.0's eu.cfg. If -eudir is not in some eu.cfg, EUPHORIA will search the 3.1 directory for includes. It seems there is no 100% reliable method for finding the 3.1 and the 4.0 EUPHORIA install directory.

Shawn Pringle