1. Virus problem?

I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.

I keep getting a couple of message boxes.

One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
I am sure they both are scams.
How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?

Does anybody have any experiance with this?
Any help appreciated.

Don Cole
SF

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2. Re: Virus problem?

On 26 Nov 2004, at 23:16, don cole wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: don cole <doncole at pacbell.net>
> 
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.

Turn off javascript, activex, vb, vbs, running cross-domain fetches, run a web 
proxy to filter <script*/script> <object....... etc. Firewall all ports not
needed
(you need email, the temp ports,,,  you might wanna turn off 113 too), 
basically, firewall all ports, and turn on those ports needed for the things 
*you* do online. The proxy would be needed to filter out automatic filetype 
downloads you don't need.

Kat

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3. Re: Virus problem?

don cole wrote:
> 
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Don Cole
> SF
> 

I had my fill of that experience. Some files labeled as
spyware or adware, I can't remember which, I couldn't even get off my
computer.

Drop MicroSoft completely. Install Linux. No more spyware, no more
adware and no more virii, no more defragging your hard drive.

You can buy cheap cd's of Linux Distributions here:
http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart

You can find a ton of information and download links for 
a zillion distributions here:
http://distrowatch.com/

If you want something to change, you have to change something.

Good luck. 

Ken Rhodes
100% MicroSoft Free!

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4. Re: Virus problem?

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:16:08 -0800, don cole <guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.


Use Firefox, not Internet Explorer: www.mozilla.org


-- 
MrTrick

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5. Re: Virus problem?

I typically suggest that users install Windows XP (Professional, if
available) with SP2 and enable the Internet Explorer Popup Blocker and
the Windows Firewall. I know they're not top of the line, but they
work from the inside out, and they work well. Also, DO NOT make
yourself an Administrator. Power User should be the highest level of
privledges you need. If you need to do a hardware or software
installation, either use "Run as..." or log out and back in as
Administrator.

I've done this with several clients and they've had no
spyware/adware/popup issues. The IE Popup Blocker also blocks ActiveX
controls, malicious JavaScripts, Java Applets, automatic Spyware
downloads, etc.... pretty much everything Kat mentioned.

~Greg


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:16:08 -0800, don cole <guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
> 
> posted by: don cole <doncole at pacbell.net>
> 
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Don Cole
> SF
> 
> 
> 
>

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6. Re: Virus problem?

don cole wrote:
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.

First of all, don't use Internet Explorer. That is the main cause
of these kind of problems. Use Opera, or Firefox. I use Opera, for
surfing, and e-mail. I use Firefox for the few websites that don't
work well with Opera. Both browsers work perfectly on Win98. If it's
an older, slower machine, I would recommend Opera, which starts faster,
runs faster, is much smaller, yet has a lot of features that make
surfing more productive.
Try Opera or Firefox for a week or two, and you probably won't go back
to Internet Explorer.

About spyware: I suggest you download both Adaware and Spyboy S&D. I use
those 2, since they use different scanning techniques, and they both find
spyware that the other doesn't find. There are probably also other good
spyware cleaners, but I only use those 2, since they're free.

Also, you need a firewall and an anti-virus program.

To get you started:
Opera: http://www.opera.com
Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox
Adaware: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware
Spybot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download

--
The Internet combines the excitement of typing 
with the reliability of anonymous hearsay.
tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier
tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com

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7. Re: Virus problem?

don cole wrote:
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.

Remove as much of MSIE as you can.
Install Mozilla Firefox and use it instead.

Also consider software like Ad-aware and Spybot search & destroy, which is for
free.

Me personally gave up on Windows naerly completely ;)

	Martin

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8. Re: Virus problem?

don cole wrote:
> 
> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> 
> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> 
> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> I am sure they both are scams.
> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> 
> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Don Cole
> SF
> 

Don:
   Download Ad-aware program from the internet.
   Run it and it will find programs and register entries
   that can be causing this.
   Then check the entries found and it will remove them.

Bernie

My files in archive:
w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.ew

Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan

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9. Re: Virus problem?

Patrick Barnes wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:16:08 -0800, don cole <guest at rapideuphoria.com>
> wrote:
> > I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> > 
> > I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> > 
> > One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> > Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> > I am sure they both are scams.
> > How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> > 
> > Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> > Any help appreciated.
> 
> 
> Use Firefox, not Internet Explorer: www.mozilla.org
And don't think you're safe just because you're using
Firefox. Another version af the Nitrous virus works
on Firefox. Get a GOOD firewall/virus scanner(the cheap
ones are no good). You will also need some adware
scanners(like Adaware and Spybot S&D). If they don't
remove it, you may already have Nitrous, the only way
to get rid of it is to reinstall Windows(or even better:
ditch Windows altogether and use Linux, Nitrous 2 runs on
Linux, but causes no damage(except it crashed Mozzila)).

> 
> 
> -- 
> MrTrick
> 
>

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10. Re: Virus problem?

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> 
> don cole wrote:
> > I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> > 
> > I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> > 
> > One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> > Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> > I am sure they both are scams.
> > How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> > 
> > Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> > Any help appreciated.
> 
> First of all, don't use Internet Explorer. That is the main cause
> of these kind of problems. Use Opera, or Firefox. I use Opera, for
> surfing, and e-mail. I use Firefox for the few websites that don't
> work well with Opera. Both browsers work perfectly on Win98. If it's
> an older, slower machine, I would recommend Opera, which starts faster,
> runs faster, is much smaller, yet has a lot of features that make
> surfing more productive.
> Try Opera or Firefox for a week or two, and you probably won't go back
> to Internet Explorer.
> 
> About spyware: I suggest you download both Adaware and Spyboy S&D. I use
> those 2, since they use different scanning techniques, and they both find
> spyware that the other doesn't find. There are probably also other good
> spyware cleaners, but I only use those 2, since they're free.
Most adware "scanners" install adware, then make you pay
to remove it. Beware. Adaware and Spyboy S&D are fine.

> 
> Also, you need a firewall and an anti-virus program.
And not a cheap one!

> 
> To get you started:
> Opera: <a href="http://www.opera.com">http://www.opera.com</a>
> Firefox: <a
> href="http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox">http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox</a>
> Adaware: <a
> href="http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware">http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware</a>
> Spybot S&D: <a
> href="http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download">http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download</a>
> 
> --
> The Internet combines the excitement of typing 
> with the reliability of anonymous hearsay.
> tommy online: <a
> href="http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier">http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier</a>
> tommy.blog: <a
> href="http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com">http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com</a>
>

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11. Re: Virus problem?

Martin Stachon wrote:
> 
> don cole wrote:
> > I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
> > 
> > I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
> > 
> > One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
> > Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
> > I am sure they both are scams.
> > How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
> > 
> > Does anybody have any experiance with this?
> > Any help appreciated.
> 
> Remove as much of MSIE as you can.
> Install Mozilla Firefox and use it instead.
> 
> Also consider software like Ad-aware and Spybot search & destroy, which is for
> free.
> 
> Me personally gave up on Windows naerly completely ;)
If only my gamesand other programs would run on it...
And it would be fully compatablt with my computre...
That is the only reason I'm still running Windows. 

> 
> 	Martin
> 
>

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12. Re: Virus problem?

fyi

i am using computer associates anti-virus/firewall program: ez-armor suite
i cannot remember the cost but i have had no problems since.

i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
DSO... keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.

i use a mail program called PocoMail. has a scripting language to parse emails ,
extract data or simply allow auto filing of emails.
so far no problems with it.

rudy

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13. Re: Virus problem?

rudy toews wrote:
> 
> fyi
> 
> i am using computer associates anti-virus/firewall program: ez-armor suite
> i cannot remember the cost but i have had no problems since.
> 
> i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
> DSO...
DSO Exploit? I think that is a false alarm.
It always shows up.

What downloaded programs do/did you use?

> keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.
> 
> i use a mail program called PocoMail. has a scripting language to parse emails
> , extract
> data or simply allow auto filing of emails.
> so far no problems with it.
> 
> rudy
>

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14. Re: Virus problem?

rudy toews wrote:
> 
> fyi
> 
> i am using computer associates anti-virus/firewall program: ez-armor suite
> i cannot remember the cost but i have had no problems since.
> 
> i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
> DSO...
> keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.
> 
> i use a mail program called PocoMail. has a scripting language to parse emails
> , extract
> data or simply allow auto filing of emails.
> so far no problems with it.
> 
rudy:

Here is something about it.

http://www.pchell.com/support/dsoexploit.shtml 

Bernie

My files in archive:
w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.ew

Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan

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15. Re: Virus problem?

CoJaBo wrote:
> 
> rudy toews wrote:
> > 
> > fyi
> > 
> > i am using computer associates anti-virus/firewall program: ez-armor suite
> > i cannot remember the cost but i have had no problems since.
> > 
> > i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
> > DSO...
> DSO Exploit? I think that is a false alarm.
> It always shows up.
> 
> What downloaded programs do/did you use?
> 
> > keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.
> > 
> > i use a mail program called PocoMail. has a scripting language to parse
> > emails , extract
> > data or simply allow auto filing of emails.
> > so far no problems with it.
> > 
> > rudy
> >
> 
i remember downloading the spybot search and destroy and lavasoft adware updates
after installing from a magazine cd. have been no cost.

spybot i updated every couple of months.

computer associates ez-armor update (annual cost) is 19.95 cdn.
cannot remember original program cost, 60.00 cdn?
email notification of virus signature updates is available too.
those updates have been averaging about 4 out of 7 days.

later
rudy

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16. Re: Virus problem?

Bernie Ryan wrote:
> 
> rudy toews wrote:
> i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
> DSO...
> > keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.
> > 


> Here is something about it.
> 
> <a
> href="http://www.pchell.com/support/dsoexploit.shtml">http://www.pchell.com/support/dsoexploit.shtml</a>
>
> 
> Bernie
> 
> My files in archive:
> w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.ew
> 
> Can be downloaded here:
> <a
> href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan</a>
> 

thanks, will look into it.
i have not been properly updating win98se.
i did not uninstall internet explorer as it is unused.

later
rudy

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17. Re: Virus problem?

rudy toews wrote:
> 
> Bernie Ryan wrote:
> > 
> > rudy toews wrote:
> > i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
> > DSO...
> > > keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.
> > > 
> 
> > Here is something about it.
> > 
> > <a
> > href="http://www.pchell.com/support/dsoexploit.shtml">http://www.pchell.com/support/dsoexploit.shtml</a>
> </font></i>
> > 
> > Bernie
> > 
> > My files in archive:
> > w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.ew
> > 
> > Can be downloaded here:
> > <a
> > href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan</a>
> > 
> 
> thanks, will look into it.
> i have not been properly updating win98se.
> i did not uninstall internet explorer as it is unused.
> 
> later
> rudy
> 

If you're thinking of running windows update on it, DON'T!
I tried to do that, and my win98 didn't start after that.
Some packets probably do work, but how do you know which they are?
Anyway, I know that at least IE6 will work.

Regards, Alexander Toresson

Shhh! Be vewy quiet! I'm hunting wuntime ewwows!

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18. Re: Virus problem?

> computer associates ez-armor update (annual cost) is 19.95 cdn.
> cannot remember original program cost, 60.00 cdn?
> email notification of virus signature updates is available too.
> those updates have been averaging about 4 out of 7 days.

I personally don't believe in having to pay to get rid of stuff I
never wanted in the first place (Viri, Spyware). Check out AntiVir
from www.free-av.com. Here's an exerpt from their site:

You'll be amazed how thoroughly AntiVir protects: 

- detects and removes more than 80,000 viruses 
- always among the winners of comparison test featured in computer journals 
- the resident Virus Guard serves to monitor file movements automatically, 
e.g. downloading of data from the internet 
- scanning and repair of macro viruses 
- protection against previously unknown macro viruses 
- safeguard against cost generating dial-up program 
- protection against trojaner, worms, backdoors, jokes and other
harmful programs
- easy operation 
- Internet-Update Wizard for easy updating 
- Protection against previously unknown boot record viruses and master
boot record viruses
- Quality "Made in Germany" 
- support is free of charge via AntiVir Bulletin Board 


And I use Adaware and Spybot S&D. But with the tips I mentioned in a
previous post, I ran Adaware and all it found was a couple suspicious
cookies, which I promptly deleted. Which means I'm 100% spyware and
virus free! (All thanks in part to Windows XP built-in security and a
free anti-virus utility)

~Greg

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19. Re: Virus problem?

rudy toews wrote:
> 
> thanks, will look into it.
> i have not been properly updating win98se.
> i did not uninstall internet explorer as it is unused.
> 
> later
> rudy
> 
How do you unistall IE? It does not show up in Add/Remove Programs.

Also I would like to thank everyone for their help.

I did not have a popup window when I was online.

What I had was a popup MessageBox that said "MSoft (not Microsoft,leading 
me to belive it was phony) has determined etc etc..".
This occurred whether I was online or not.

Any way Ad-Aware seems to have fixed it,

Don Cole
SF

How 'bout them niners?

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20. Re: Virus problem?

> How do you unistall IE? It does not show up in Add/Remove Programs.

Heh, heh, heh.... that's funny. You can uninstall IE when you wipe
your HD and install Linux. IE has been more and more integrated with
Windows as time has progressed. It started with Win9X and IE 4 with
the whole "Active Desktop" thing. It was all down hill from there. Its
one reason Microsoft got that suit thrown at them a while back.

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21. Re: Virus problem?

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:39:26 -0800, don cole <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
wrote:

>How do you unistall IE? It does not show up in Add/Remove Programs.
You can try this:
http://litepc.com/ieradicator.html

Disclaimer: I have not personally tried this, but I've heard it
recommended by several people I would trust.

Regards,
Pete

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22. Re: Virus problem?

Pete Lomax wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:39:26 -0800, don cole <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >How do you unistall IE? It does not show up in Add/Remove Programs.
> You can try this:
> <a
> href="http://litepc.com/ieradicator.html">http://litepc.com/ieradicator.html</a>
> 
> Disclaimer: I have not personally tried this, but I've heard it
> recommended by several people I would trust.
> 
> Regards,
> Pete
> 
> 

only recently considered opening iexplorer up as a binary file and using that
space as a database:  writing to it
am going through the archive looking for euphoria program (editor?) that would
manage file space. i am under the belief that most programs simply use files as
one large sequence in memory. even the eds program.
i don't have knowledge of windows programming so those programs are harder to
read.

working nights does not help.

rudy

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23. Re: Virus problem?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rudy toews" <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Virus problem?


>
>
> posted by: rudy toews <rltoews at ilos.net>
>
> fyi
>
> i am using computer associates anti-virus/firewall program: ez-armor suite
> i cannot remember the cost but i have had no problems since.
>
> i use both the ad-ware and spybot. so far cannot get rid of something called
> DSO... keeps re-installing (showing up) on searches.

Ignore the "DSO Exploits" that keeps showing up in Spybot.
If you new enough about Windows then you would know that those
settings are Harmless Microsoft settings.  They will always come back.
I've seen that with every computer I've scanned.  You should remove it
the first time you encounter it because that location can contain damaging code.
However, repeat accounts are usually harmless.  I do wish that Spybot would
fix that constant false postive.

>
> i use a mail program called PocoMail. has a scripting language to parse emails
> , extract data or simply allow auto filing of
> emails.
> so far no problems with it.
>
> rudy

    unkmar

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24. Re: Virus problem?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Rhodes" <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: Virus problem?


> 
> 
> posted by: Kenneth Rhodes <wolf_man_jacques at excite.com>
> 
> don cole wrote:
>> 
>> I have a new to me computer and I installed Win98 in it w/IE.
>> 
>> I keep getting a couple of message boxes.
>> 
>> One warning about viruses and one warning about spyware.
>> Both instruct me to download software at their website for money.
>> I am sure they both are scams.
>> How can I stop these message boxes from popping up?
>> 
>> Does anybody have any experiance with this?
>> Any help appreciated.
>> 
>> Don Cole
>> SF
>> 
> 
> I had my fill of that experience. Some files labeled as
> spyware or adware, I can't remember which, I couldn't even get off my
> computer.
> 
> Drop MicroSoft completely. Install Linux. No more spyware, no more
> adware and no more virii, no more defragging your hard drive.
> 
> You can buy cheap cd's of Linux Distributions here:
> http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
> 
> You can find a ton of information and download links for 
> a zillion distributions here:
> http://distrowatch.com/
> 
> If you want something to change, you have to change something.
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Ken Rhodes
> 100% MicroSoft Free!

No easy to find fixes. No more easy to find help. No easy to use
software.  No more lots of things that Microsoft has done to make
our lives much more Productive.  Yes, Windows isn't as stable as
linux.  Yes, Windows needs rebooting way too often.
No, I haven't found a Photoshop replacement in Linux.  Don't try
and feed me Gimp, I've tried it and it isn't good enough. It isn't
friendly.  Windows is friendly.  Linux isn't.  Have a problem any setting
in Windows?  Just ask the closest half-wit of a geek, any 10-year old.
Have a problem with a setting in Linux? Looking for a command?
Just use man, sorry, I don't know what command I'm looking for!
Just ask the closest Linux geek.  When you finally find him.  Oh, that's
right, just use IRC. Wait, what's IRC?  Um, try a web search.  Oh,
you can't reach the web? Problem with getting a modem to work?
Can't figure out how to dial the internet?  Linux is not friendly.

LINUX  is not user friendly.  It is getting their.  It is much closer.
but the powers that be are making it pretty hard for it to ever happen.
WinModems, along with many other Windows only HARDWARE.
USB Printers with Windows drivers, USB Scanners, USB Cameras
USB this that and the other thing.  Windows drivers all over.  But
finding Linux drivers is very hard.  You have to hunt for a LINUX
product.  They don't come stamped "Linux friendly".  Heck.  They
don't even come stamped friendly to a particular Flavor/distribution
of linux.  "RedHat Drivers" or "Mandrake Drivers included".

Don't go thinking I'm a Microsoft Lover either.  I don't like Microsoft.
But I don't see Linux as being a reasonable replacement for the
usual Desktop User.  I've got an uncle with both Linux and Windows
XP on the system.  I set the default boot to linux.  I told him how it is
much safer.  He and his wife have attempted to use linux many times.
They simply prefer to use Windows.  They use Mozilla as Browser.
My dad has Linux on one of his computers.  He uses Windows instead.
I've had Linux on many of my systems.  I've used Windows instead.
Why?  Because I can get it done.  Whatever I want to do.  I can get it
done with Windows.  It is like choosing Euphoria over C.  I can find
out how to get it done and get it done much quicker with Euphoria than
with C.  Will hand-crafted Euphoria code run as fast as the hand-crafted
C?  Not, likely.  But, I'll have a WORKING prototype much faster with
Euphoria than with C.  I don't have to compile to test Euphoria code.
Save and Double-Click/Execute/Interpret.  Versus Save, compile,
execute.  Debugging is easier.  You get more intelligent errors.

Same can be said of Windows. Sort of.  It is easier to solve your
Windows problems simply because Windows is more popular.  More
people use it.  More people work with it.  More people work on it.
More people talk about working with it and own it.  More people
support it.  And that doesn't even attempt to include Microsoft as
considered a center of support for Windows.  Windows support is
much easier to find even without turning to Microsoft for help.

     unkmar - Lucius L. Hilley III

PS: I'm sorry, but I'm getting tired of the Microsoft bashing.
Not because I think Microsoft is great.  But because I don't
think Linux is so great.

A grapefruit is not an orange.  They barely taste anything close to
each other.  Yet people keep trying to compare them.

Linux is not a solution to Windows problems.  Better Windows is
the solution to Windows.  Just as better Linux is the solution to the
Linux problems

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25. Re: Virus problem?

don cole wrote:
> 
> rudy toews wrote:
> > 
> > thanks, will look into it.
> > i have not been properly updating win98se.
> > i did not uninstall internet explorer as it is unused.
> > 
> > later
> > rudy
> > 
> How do you unistall IE? It does not show up in Add/Remove Programs.
> 
> Also I would like to thank everyone for their help.
> 
> I did not have a popup window when I was online.
> 
> What I had was a popup MessageBox that said "MSoft (not Microsoft,leading 
> me to belive it was phony) has determined etc etc..".
> This occurred whether I was online or not.
Also, you may want to avoid buying Compaq PCs,
the come with a type of adware PREINSTALLED!!!
It isn't detected by Adaware, there is no (easy) way
to disable it(except maybe buying the software),
it was installed to an unusual directory, and
you can't get rid of it by re-installing(since
it is on the restore CDs)!

> 
> Any way Ad-Aware seems to have fixed it,
> 
> Don Cole
> SF
> 
> How 'bout them niners?
>

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