1. Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

The Official Release of Euphoria 2.4 is now available.

The release notes are here:
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/relnotes.htm

The code is here:
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/v20.htm

If you registered for 2.4 Alpha or Beta, you can
use the exact same download instructions to get
the 2.4 Official Release Complete Edition files.
If you've lost your instructions, let me know,
and include some information, such as your order number,
your street address, your telephone number etc.
(Unfortunately names and e-mail addresses can be faked).

Regards,
    Rob Craig
    Rapid Deployment Software
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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2. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Robert Craig wrote:

> 
> The Official Release of Euphoria 2.4 is now available.
> 
> The release notes are here:
>     http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/relnotes.htm
> 
> The code is here:
>     http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/v20.htm
> 

Hey, Rob, good news!

But I have the readme.doc file of Euphoria 1.0 on my HD.
It is created 07.07.1993.
Is tomorrow the 10th birthday of Euphoria ?
If it is so or it is not so,  
Happy Birthdays Anyway!

Regards,
Igor Kachan
kinz at peterlink.ru

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3. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Rob,

I have indeed misplaced my instructions for the registered version.

-- Mike Nelson
9328 Bowman Ave.
South Gate, CA 90280
(323) 566-4702

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4. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Please send me the download instructions (again :/).

Evan Marshall
740 Golden Ave.
Battle Creek, MI 49014



Robert Craig wrote:
> 
> The Official Release of Euphoria 2.4 is now available.
> 
> The release notes are here:
>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/relnotes.htm
> 
> The code is here:
>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/v20.htm
> 
> If you registered for 2.4 Alpha or Beta, you can
> use the exact same download instructions to get
> the 2.4 Official Release Complete Edition files.
> If you've lost your instructions, let me know,
> and include some information, such as your order number,
> your street address, your telephone number etc.
> (Unfortunately names and e-mail addresses can be faked).
> 
> Regards,
>    Rob Craig
>    Rapid Deployment Software
>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
> 
> 
> 
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>

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5. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Ok, nobody read this message.
I'm going to have to stop getting on the computer in the morning. :)



1evan at sbcglobal.net wrote:
> 
> Please send me the download instructions (again :/).
> 
> Evan Marshall
> 740 Golden Ave.
> Battle Creek, MI 49014
> 
> 
> Robert Craig wrote:
> 
>>
>> The Official Release of Euphoria 2.4 is now available.
>>
>> The release notes are here:
>>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/relnotes.htm
>>
>> The code is here:
>>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/v20.htm
>>
>> If you registered for 2.4 Alpha or Beta, you can
>> use the exact same download instructions to get
>> the 2.4 Official Release Complete Edition files.
>> If you've lost your instructions, let me know,
>> and include some information, such as your order number,
>> your street address, your telephone number etc.
>> (Unfortunately names and e-mail addresses can be faked).
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Rob Craig
>>    Rapid Deployment Software
>>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
>>
>>
>> TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!
>>
>>
> 
> 
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6. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Igor Kachan wrote:
> Hey, Rob, good news!
> 
> But I have the readme.doc file of Euphoria 1.0 on my HD.
> It is created 07.07.1993.
> Is tomorrow the 10th birthday of Euphoria ?
> If it is so or it is not so,  
> Happy Birthdays Anyway!

Yes, 10 years have gone by since Euphoria 1.0 was released,
and I'm still working on this thing.

I released 1.0 by uploading it to a
local Toronto BBS (Bulletin Board System - remember those?),
using my 2400 Baud modem. In those days very few people
had even heard of the Internet. There was no Web to speak of.
To distribute Euphoria better, I bought a 14,400 baud modem,
and started uploading to a bunch of other BBS's
around North America. Eventually I put it on Compuserve,
GEnie and the fledgling America Online.

10 years isn't old by programming language standards.
C is about 30, Fortran almost 50. Hardware sure
advances a lot faster than software.

Regards,
    Rob Craig
    Rapid Deployment Software
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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7. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 6 Jul 2003, at 20:25, Robert Craig wrote:

<snip>

> Hardware sure
> advances a lot faster than software.

Yes, we know. <sigh>

It's not just Euphoria, actually. I was so excited to hear of the hardware 
dedicated to doing string manipulation, back in the 70's, but it isn't made 
anymore. Then Connection Machines bit the dust more recently. While 
Lisp/Scheme/etc isn't my cup of tea, Eu is close enough to do the same job, 
IF we had string execution. And i still prefer a good goto over a case 
statement.

Kat,
Still waiting on the http proxy......

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8. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Mike,

I think you're supposed to send that info directly to Rob, not put it on the
list, for security.

Dan Moyer

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From: "Mike Nelson" <MichaelANelson at WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release


>
>
> Rob,
>
> I have indeed misplaced my instructions for the registered version.
>
<personal info snipped>
>
>
>
> TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!
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9. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Yeah, I know--I unthinkingly used reply and once it was out too late to call
it back.

-- Mike
> Mike,
>
> I think you're supposed to send that info directly to Rob, not put it on
the
> list, for security.
>
> Dan Moyer

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10. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

I don't think any of it is funny.
The loss of my 30Gig HDD, kat being frustrated.
My bigfixed.e not being complete.
BCBS not being done yet.
My dead-end job.
My lack of drive to create/motivate/run my own business.
My inability to make that reverse proxy for kat.
  * I don't have Linux now.
  * I don't know TCP/IP programming.
  * kat is asking for MORE THAN a reverse proxy.
    * even if she refuses to belive that fact.

kat asks for:
  * a reverse proxy
  * a simple method for her to tell it when she is online or offline.
  * a method for her to reprogram new features into it.
  * to have it deny certain IP's that she adds or removes dynamically.
    * Sounds like an interface issue.
  * to have it deny a range of IP's?
  * to be written in Eu
  * to run on linux
  * to be controllable from a remote windows machine
  * to be fully tested
  * to be easy for her to setup
  * for help with setting it up without others having access
     Just go by what she says is happening and is going wrong.

She is NOT be happy with positive results.
She does NOT have or give a positive outlook about the project
even when it is going well.
She constantly DEMANDS better and doesn't praise [message incomplete



        Lucius L. Hilley III

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gertie at visionsix.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 06:55 PM
Subject: RE: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release


> 
> 
> On 8 Jul 2003, at 21:38, C. K. Lester wrote:
> 
> > 
> > gertie at visionsix.com claim:
> > 
> > > I agree. I myself, after hand editing a 100,000 word dictionary,
> > > beginning in 1992, with classes, descendants and predecessors,
> > > grammar, semantic info, for machine use, am calling it quits.
> > 
> > Yeah, right, kat!!! good one, though. ;)
> 
> Yep, i am just a joke, to dismiss, make fun of, ignore. 
> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> 
> TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!
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11. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:55:30PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> 
<snip> 
> Yep, i am just a joke, to dismiss, make fun of, ignore. 
> 
> Kat
> 

Yes we have all heard that before.

jbrown

P.S. good luck with your (personal?) issues...i think

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12. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 08:41:37PM -0400, Lucius Hilley wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't think any of it is funny.

Me either.

> The loss of my 30Gig HDD,

Ouch. Thats definately not cool.

> kat being frustrated.

> My bigfixed.e not being complete.
> BCBS not being done yet.

Good luck with those. Let me know if theres anything more I can do to help
on those.

> My dead-end job.
> My lack of drive to create/motivate/run my own business.

Not much I can say there.

> My inability to make that reverse proxy for kat.
>   * I don't have Linux now.
>   * I don't know TCP/IP programming.
>   * kat is asking for MORE THAN a reverse proxy.
>     * even if she refuses to belive that fact.
> 

No comment.

> kat asks for:
>   * a reverse proxy

I wrote a sort of one on apache, that works fine. The catch is that it is
horribly difficult to debug.

I wrote it for her, but then she says she doesn't want it. And yet she
still complains about not having one...even tho one is available. I have said
multiple times that it is working. She doesn't even bother to reply when I
say that.

I'll give the code to anyone else who wants to give it a go, however. (It'll
prolly end up public domain.)

>   * a simple method for her to tell it when she is online or offline.
>   * a method for her to reprogram new features into it.
>   * to have it deny certain IP's that she adds or removes dynamically.
>     * Sounds like an interface issue.
>   * to have it deny a range of IP's?
>   * to be written in Eu
>   * to run on linux
>   * to be controllable from a remote windows machine
>   * to be fully tested
>   * to be easy for her to setup
>   * for help with setting it up without others having access
>      Just go by what she says is happening and is going wrong.

Debugging and testing is hard. Most of the rest of the items on here
are respectively simple, however.

> 
> She is NOT be happy with positive results.
> She does NOT have or give a positive outlook about the project
> even when it is going well.
> She constantly DEMANDS better and doesn't praise [message incomplete
> 
> 

Which means no one will go into a contract with her, basicly. :)

Her attitude is likely more influcenced by her outlook of her life than the
progress of the project (or so it appears to me anyways). Considering her life
this is completely understandable ... but doesn't make the situation any
easier to deal with. For her or anyone trying to help her.

> 
>         Lucius L. Hilley III
> 
<snip> 
> 

jbrown

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13. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:41, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:

<snip>

> I wrote a sort of one on apache, that works fine. The catch is that it is
> horribly difficult to debug.
> 
> I wrote it for her, but then she says she doesn't want it. 

I don't see it working. Where is it? Show me. What's the url?

> And yet she
> still complains about not having one...even tho one is available. I have said
> multiple times that it is working. She doesn't even bother to reply when I say
> that.

I ask you every time where it is. It has not worked for me. You sent me code 
several times, i pointed out the bugs that kept it from working. Then the shell 
you guys were using stopped letting me log in, and i gave you the passwords 
to the account. I still do NOT have a WORKING proxy.

> I'll give the code to anyone else who wants to give it a go, however. (It'll
> prolly end up public domain.)
> 
> >   * a simple method for her to tell it when she is online or offline.
> >   * a method for her to reprogram new features into it.
> >   * to have it deny certain IP's that she adds or removes dynamically.
> >     * Sounds like an interface issue.
> >   * to have it deny a range of IP's?
> >   * to be written in Eu
> >   * to run on linux
> >   * to be controllable from a remote windows machine
> >   * to be fully tested
> >   * to be easy for her to setup
> >   * for help with setting it up without others having access
> >      Just go by what she says is happening and is going wrong.
> 
> Debugging and testing is hard. Most of the rest of the items on here
> are respectively simple, however.
> 
> > 
> > She is NOT be happy with positive results.
> > She does NOT have or give a positive outlook about the project
> > even when it is going well.
> > She constantly DEMANDS better and doesn't praise [message incomplete
> > 
> > 
> Which means no one will go into a contract with her, basicly. :)
> 
> Her attitude is likely more influcenced by her outlook of her life than the
> progress of the project (or so it appears to me anyways). Considering her life
> this is completely understandable ... but doesn't make the situation any
> easier
> to deal with. For her or anyone trying to help her.

Well, so far, this project hasn't gone anywhere after over a year of you 
alledgedly having a working proxy. Yes i am ticked, because i was told it 
was working several times, and yet you did recode it and tell me it was 
working, repeatedly.

Kat

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14. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 8 Jul 2003, at 20:41, Lucius Hilley wrote:

> 
> 
> I don't think any of it is funny.
> The loss of my 30Gig HDD, kat being frustrated.
> My bigfixed.e not being complete.
> BCBS not being done yet.
> My dead-end job.

Least you have one, i have been out of work since 1985, 17.5 years now.

> My lack of drive to create/motivate/run my own business.
> My inability to make that reverse proxy for kat.
>   * I don't have Linux now.
>   * I don't know TCP/IP programming.
>   * kat is asking for MORE THAN a reverse proxy.
>     * even if she refuses to belive that fact.

I know it's a bit more versatile. I offered to help with those extras. It was 
when adding those extras that i discovered the code didn't work on the shell 
it was installed on. Repeatedly.
 
> kat asks for:
>   * a reverse proxy
>   * a simple method for her to tell it when she is online or offline.

That doesn't make sense. If i am offline, it doesn't matter how simple it is to 
tell the proxy i am gone, as i wouldn't be able to due to being offline! I said
i
could, and preferred, to keep a tcp to it continuously. Loss of connection 
means i am not there, until i reconnect.

>   * a method for her to reprogram new features into it.
>   * to have it deny certain IP's that she adds or removes dynamically.
>     * Sounds like an interface issue.
>   * to have it deny a range of IP's?

Sounds like reading from a file i send up to it, and including wildmatch.e.

>   * to be written in Eu
>   * to run on linux
>   * to be controllable from a remote windows machine

I can write for windows, that's not your problem, you provide the interface,
i'll
get the commands to it.

>   * to be fully tested

Because it was not fully tested and working before. I know, i tried for a week 
to get it working before i gave up and gave you guys the passwords.

>   * to be easy for her to setup
>   * for help with setting it up without others having access
>      Just go by what she says is happening and is going wrong.

I gave you guys the passwords. You could get ex.err as easily as i could.
 
> She is NOT be happy with positive results.

When has it worked??

> She does NOT have or give a positive outlook about the project
> even when it is going well.

Nope, history tells me it won't get done.

> She constantly DEMANDS better and doesn't praise [message incomplete

I want it to WORK. It's been over a year, and all i have to show for it is 
useless code and excuses.

Kat

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15. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:20, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:55:30PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > 
> <snip> 
> > Yep, i am just a joke, to dismiss, make fun of, ignore. 
> > 
> > Kat
> > 
> 
> Yes we have all heard that before.

And you see no reason to actually make the proxy work, even tho you said it 
was. I gave reasons, i want it, i need it. Others have agreed it would be a 
good item to have. But those who could code it, won't.
 
> jbrown
> 
> P.S. good luck with your (personal?) issues...i think

Pardon me for taking it personally that you say there is a working reverse 
proxy working somewhere, but you have yet to post an url of it. You call me 
a liar, and offer no proof. You sent me code that you said was working, and it 
wasn't. I logged #Euphoria channel. 

Kat

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16. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:19:08PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:41, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > I wrote a sort of one on apache, that works fine. The catch is that it is
> > horribly difficult to debug.
> > 
> > I wrote it for her, but then she says she doesn't want it. 
> 
> I don't see it working. Where is it? Show me. What's the url?
> 

I tested it on a local apache thats not exposed to the internet (due to
ISP restrictions). I could show it to you in action tho, you'd just need
a shell account on my local system.

> > And yet she
> > still complains about not having one...even tho one is available. I have
> > said
> > multiple times that it is working. She doesn't even bother to reply when I
> > say
> > that.
> 
> I ask you every time where it is. It has not worked for me. You sent me code 
> several times, i pointed out the bugs that kept it from working. Then the
> shell
> you guys were using stopped letting me log in, and i gave you the passwords 
> to the account. I still do NOT have a WORKING proxy.

I could show you the code and have you point out more bugs ... except that
would go against the "fully tested" clause i suppose, eh?

I'll set it up and give it a full test later tonight (or perhaps early tomorrow
morning) just to see how it fares. If you are still interested in the
program then email me privately and I'll try to arrange a full demonstration
of the program for you (i.e. give you a shell account and everything).

> 
> > I'll give the code to anyone else who wants to give it a go, however. (It'll
> > prolly end up public domain.)
> > 
> > >   * a simple method for her to tell it when she is online or offline.
> > >   * a method for her to reprogram new features into it.
> > >   * to have it deny certain IP's that she adds or removes dynamically.
> > >     * Sounds like an interface issue.
> > >   * to have it deny a range of IP's?
> > >   * to be written in Eu
> > >   * to run on linux
> > >   * to be controllable from a remote windows machine
> > >   * to be fully tested
> > >   * to be easy for her to setup
> > >   * for help with setting it up without others having access
> > >      Just go by what she says is happening and is going wrong.
> > 
> > Debugging and testing is hard. Most of the rest of the items on here
> > are respectively simple, however.
> > 
> > > 
> > > She is NOT be happy with positive results.
> > > She does NOT have or give a positive outlook about the project
> > > even when it is going well.
> > > She constantly DEMANDS better and doesn't praise [message incomplete
> > > 
> > > 
> > Which means no one will go into a contract with her, basicly. :)
> > 
> > Her attitude is likely more influcenced by her outlook of her life than the
> > progress of the project (or so it appears to me anyways). Considering her
> > life
> > this is completely understandable ... but doesn't make the situation any
> > easier
> > to deal with. For her or anyone trying to help her.
> 
> Well, so far, this project hasn't gone anywhere after over a year of you 
> alledgedly having a working proxy. Yes i am ticked, because i was told it 
> was working several times, and yet you did recode it and tell me it was 
> working, repeatedly.

You told robsz1 (who in turn told me) that you didn't want it anymore ...
(minor detail: its only been 4-5 months, not a year, that the proxy has
stalled)

> 
> Kat
> 
> 
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17. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:34:00PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:20, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:55:30PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > 
> > <snip> 
> > > Yep, i am just a joke, to dismiss, make fun of, ignore. 
> > > 
> > > Kat
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes we have all heard that before.
> 
> And you see no reason to actually make the proxy work, even tho you said it 
> was. I gave reasons, i want it, i need it. Others have agreed it would be a 
> good item to have. But those who could code it, won't.

One implication might have been that the proxy code is designed for linux but
you wanted it to run under a FreeBSD shell account ... I have recently
discovered a few incompatibilites that will have to be addressed before
I can say that the proxy will work under FreeBSD.

Another thing is that this proxy is actually an Apache CGI program and I am
not too great a Linux CGI programmer.

>  
> > jbrown
> > 
> > P.S. good luck with your (personal?) issues...i think
> 
> Pardon me for taking it personally that you say there is a working reverse 
> proxy working somewhere, but you have yet to post an url of it. You call me 
> a liar, and offer no proof. You sent me code that you said was working, and it
>
> wasn't. I logged #Euphoria channel. 

I did? If I did then it was working for me ... I did send code to the #euphoria
channel that I said I hadn't TESTED because at that time I had no idea how
to set up or use Apache (robsz1 taught me later).

> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> 
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18. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 9 Jul 2003, at 0:06, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:34:00PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:20, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:55:30PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > <snip> 
> > > > Yep, i am just a joke, to dismiss, make fun of, ignore. 
> > > > 
> > > > Kat
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes we have all heard that before.
> > 
> > And you see no reason to actually make the proxy work, even tho you said it
> > was. I gave reasons, i want it, i need it. Others have agreed it would be a
> > good item to have. But those who could code it, won't.
> 
> One implication might have been that the proxy code is designed for linux but
> you wanted it to run under a FreeBSD shell account ...

I didn't care. I lost track of the reasons you gave for it not working. I
finally
said i wanted the proxy set up and working, i didn't care what flavor of nix it 
worked on.

Kat

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19. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

I did a full test. It is working, but only minimally. A lot of features
that you have requested have not been implemented at all ... and those that
have are not working. Only the basic relaying works, afaict.

I also need someone who knows a great deal of CGI and HTML ... the examples
that robsz1 wrote are primitive and I want more to test out the proxy better ...
alas I'm at my limits in that area.

jbrown

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:06:32PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9 Jul 2003, at 0:06, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:34:00PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:20, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:55:30PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > <snip> 
> > > > > Yep, i am just a joke, to dismiss, make fun of, ignore. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kat
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes we have all heard that before.
> > > 
> > > And you see no reason to actually make the proxy work, even tho you said
> > > it
> > > was. I gave reasons, i want it, i need it. Others have agreed it would be
> > > a
> > > good item to have. But those who could code it, won't.
> > 
> > One implication might have been that the proxy code is designed for linux
> > but
> > you wanted it to run under a FreeBSD shell account ...
> 
> I didn't care. I lost track of the reasons you gave for it not working. I
> finally
> said i wanted the proxy set up and working, i didn't care what flavor of nix
> it
> worked on.
> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> 
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20. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 8 Jul 2003, at 23:56, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:19:08PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 8 Jul 2003, at 22:41, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > I wrote a sort of one on apache, that works fine. The catch is that it is
> > > horribly difficult to debug.
> > > 
> > > I wrote it for her, but then she says she doesn't want it. 
> > 
> > I don't see it working. Where is it? Show me. What's the url?
> > 
> 
> I tested it on a local apache thats not exposed to the internet (due to
> ISP restrictions). I could show it to you in action tho, you'd just need
> a shell account on my local system.

I need a shell account on a provider company other than a personal 
computer.
 
> > > And yet she
> > > still complains about not having one...even tho one is available. I have
> > > said multiple times that it is working. She doesn't even bother to reply
> > > when I say that.
> > 
> > I ask you every time where it is. It has not worked for me. You sent me code
> > several times, i pointed out the bugs that kept it from working. Then the
> > shell you guys were using stopped letting me log in, and i gave you the
> > passwords to the account. I still do NOT have a WORKING proxy.
> 
> I could show you the code and have you point out more bugs ... except that
> would go against the "fully tested" clause i suppose, eh?

If it is not working, darned right.

> I'll set it up and give it a full test later tonight (or perhaps early
> tomorrow
> morning) just to see how it fares. If you are still interested in the program
> then email me privately and I'll try to arrange a full demonstration of the
> program for you (i.e. give you a shell account and everything).
> 
> > 
> > > I'll give the code to anyone else who wants to give it a go, however.
> > > (It'll
> > > prolly end up public domain.)
> > > 
> > > >   * a simple method for her to tell it when she is online or offline. *
> > > >   a
> > > >   method for her to reprogram new features into it. * to have it deny
> > > >   certain IP's that she adds or removes dynamically.
> > > >     * Sounds like an interface issue.
> > > >   * to have it deny a range of IP's?
> > > >   * to be written in Eu
> > > >   * to run on linux
> > > >   * to be controllable from a remote windows machine
> > > >   * to be fully tested
> > > >   * to be easy for her to setup
> > > >   * for help with setting it up without others having access
> > > >      Just go by what she says is happening and is going wrong.
> > > 
> > > Debugging and testing is hard. Most of the rest of the items on here
> > > are respectively simple, however.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > She is NOT be happy with positive results.
> > > > She does NOT have or give a positive outlook about the project
> > > > even when it is going well.
> > > > She constantly DEMANDS better and doesn't praise [message incomplete
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Which means no one will go into a contract with her, basicly. :)
> > > 
> > > Her attitude is likely more influcenced by her outlook of her life than
> > > the
> > > progress of the project (or so it appears to me anyways). Considering her
> > > life this is completely understandable ... but doesn't make the situation
> > > any easier to deal with. For her or anyone trying to help her.
> > 
> > Well, so far, this project hasn't gone anywhere after over a year of you
> > alledgedly having a working proxy. Yes i am ticked, because i was told it
> > was
> > working several times, and yet you did recode it and tell me it was working,
> > repeatedly.
> 
> You told robsz1 (who in turn told me) that you didn't want it anymore ...
> (minor detail: its only been 4-5 months, not a year, that the proxy has
> stalled)

I gave you the password in Dec, 2002, 7 months ago. It was stalled long 
before that. But since i can't do anything right, i doubt i'd need it to offer
the
world anything i can do, who'd want that?

Kat

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21. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:14:49PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> 
<snip> 
> > 
> > I tested it on a local apache thats not exposed to the internet (due to
> > ISP restrictions). I could show it to you in action tho, you'd just need
> > a shell account on my local system.
> 
> I need a shell account on a provider company other than a personal 
> computer.

Not much I can do in that department. What do you want me to do about that
exactly?

<snip>
> > I could show you the code and have you point out more bugs ... except that
> > would go against the "fully tested" clause i suppose, eh?
> 
> If it is not working, darned right.
> 

<snip>
> > You told robsz1 (who in turn told me) that you didn't want it anymore ...
> > (minor detail: its only been 4-5 months, not a year, that the proxy has
> > stalled)
> 
> I gave you the password in Dec, 2002, 7 months ago. It was stalled long 
> before that. But since i can't do anything right, i doubt i'd need it to offer
> the
> world anything i can do, who'd want that?

Lets not go into that again. Euforge is long past .. and it was very sick
before it died (now orkim has the url hosted on a machine he does not own and
only has permission to run the web server on).

> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 

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22. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On 9 Jul 2003, at 0:37, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:14:49PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > 
> <snip> 
> > > 
> > > I tested it on a local apache thats not exposed to the internet (due to
> > > ISP
> > > restrictions). I could show it to you in action tho, you'd just need a
> > > shell
> > > account on my local system.
> > 
> > I need a shell account on a provider company other than a personal 
> > computer.
> 
> Not much I can do in that department. What do you want me to do about that
> exactly?

I offered $100 for working code that i could plug in the "extras", no set up 
permanent professional shell, but on a remote nix box. You accessing a 
local box on on your lan doesn't count as remote. It hasto work when i put it 
on a professional nix box. For $500, i want all the extras working, on a 
professional host, running. Like i said before, you make it run, give me the 
passwords to it so it's mine. Naturally, if this is hosted on a professional 
shell, it hasto be ok with the hosting company.

But like you said in the next email:
> I did a full test. It is working, but only minimally. A lot of features
> that you have requested have not been implemented at all ... and those 
that have
> are not working. Only the basic relaying works, afaict.

Which is what i was told in December 2002, when it didn't work on Euforge.

Kat

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23. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Rob, when I run sanity.exw I get the following error:

c:\euphoria\bin\ex.exe seems to be incorrect.
Its check-sum (19620659) is wrong.

Pete

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24. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Pete Lomax wrote:
> Rob, when I run sanity.exw I get the following error:
> 
> c:\euphoria\bin\ex.exe seems to be incorrect.
> Its check-sum (19620659) is wrong.

I just re-installed and ran "ex sanity.ex" on my machine
and it worked ok. 19620659 is the correct checksum for the
PD ex.exe for the 2.4 Official release. I suspect you
tried to run "exw sanity", i.e. exw sanity.exw, and you picked
up an old file named sanity.exw from somewhere on your PATH.
The official sanity test is sanity.ex, not .exw, though
you can also run it with exw sanity.ex or exu sanity.ex

Regards,
    Rob Craig
    Rapid Deployment Software
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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25. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 12:22:37AM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9 Jul 2003, at 0:37, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:14:49PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > 
> > <snip> 
> > > > 
> > > > I tested it on a local apache thats not exposed to the internet (due to
> > > > ISP
> > > > restrictions). I could show it to you in action tho, you'd just need a
> > > > shell
> > > > account on my local system.
> > > 
> > > I need a shell account on a provider company other than a personal 
> > > computer.
> > 
> > Not much I can do in that department. What do you want me to do about that
> > exactly?
> 
> I offered $100 for working code that i could plug in the "extras", no set up 
> permanent professional shell, but on a remote nix box. You accessing a 
> local box on on your lan doesn't count as remote. It hasto work when i put it 
> on a professional nix box. For $500, i want all the extras working, on a 
> professional host, running. Like i said before, you make it run, give me the 
> passwords to it so it's mine. Naturally, if this is hosted on a professional 
> shell, it hasto be ok with the hosting company.

The proxy should be able to work on another Linux system. I don't have one
handy that I can test it on, though.

Hope doesn't have to be lost yet, as there may be another who would be willing
to take my code and help test it on their own remote linux box or even go as
far as finding you a shell to host it on.

> 
> But like you said in the next email:
> > I did a full test. It is working, but only minimally. A lot of features
> > that you have requested have not been implemented at all ... and those 
> that have
> > are not working. Only the basic relaying works, afaict.
> 
> Which is what i was told in December 2002, when it didn't work on Euforge.

That was due to tripwire, which messed up all of Apache, not just the proxy.
(It also messed up quite a few other things, such as ssh.)

> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 

jbrown

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26. Re: Euphoria 2.4 Official Release

Mr. Craig,

I have not received the pointers for downloads of all versions and 
pieces of
2.4 per our agreement. I looked in my forum email folder and in all 
other places
in my email that I could think of relevant search arguments. If you have 
already
sent it, I have missed it. Please send it again.

My original order # is RE939667 and the first password was received on
10/26/99 and was w29pxkc5.

Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at classicnet.net

Robert Craig wrote:

>
> The Official Release of Euphoria 2.4 is now available.
>
> The release notes are here:
>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/relnotes.htm
>
> The code is here:
>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/v20.htm
>
> If you registered for 2.4 Alpha or Beta, you can
> use the exact same download instructions to get
> the 2.4 Official Release Complete Edition files.
> If you've lost your instructions, let me know,
> and include some information, such as your order number,
> your street address, your telephone number etc.
> (Unfortunately names and e-mail addresses can be faked).
>
> Regards,
>    Rob Craig
>    Rapid Deployment Software
>    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
>
>
>
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