1. HELP!

Hey everyone! I am so sorry to bother you, but can someone please e-mail
me the address to the Euphoria site? I deleted the program by accident
and wanna download it again!

Thanks

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2. Re: HELP!

I can not find MEdit anyware.
Can you hook me up with it?





----- Original Message -----
From: <mabrown at SENET.COM.AU>
To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: HELP!


> Hi.
>
> The best way to use Euphoria is to set up a proper work environment
> from the outset.
>
> 1. Get yourself a decent editor. If you are using Windows then "MEdit"
> (free) is
>     good. If you go for MEdit there are two versions from memory. One
> (both?)
>     works "straight out of the box" with Euphoria. MEdit has some small
bugs
>     but you can work around them. It also has syntax highlighting already
> set up
>     for Eu.
>
>     Another good editor is "Textpad" (shareware). It takes more to set up
> for Eu
>     than MEdit but is an excellent editor.
>
>     Both of the editors above allow you to run your code direct from the
> editor......
>     no need to resort to the DOS prompt! This in my opinion is a MUST.
>     Textpad can also be set-up to compile and make your programs using the
> new
>     translator without having to leave the editor....very handy.
>
> 2. If you are running under Windows, Then get yourself one of the
excellent
> "help"
>     versions of the Euphoria documentation. I use the (slightly outdated)
> one by
>     Fabio Ramirez. There is a more up-to-date one by Adam Weedon.
>
>     With the exception of Textpad, you can get these items via
> www.rapideuphoria.com
>
>     Get Textpad at www.textpad.com
>
> Once you have a decent workspace, you'll learn fast.
>
> Have Fun.
>
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <willabamm at hotmail.com>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:45 PM
> Subject: HELP!
>
>
> > I don't know a thing about Euphoria.
> > 1) How do I start the dang thing?
> > 2) How do I learn to make source code with it.
> >      I don't have much skills I don't know C++ or anything.
> > I do know how to use RPG MAKER 2000 it's a joke. U can't even sell your
> > games that u make with it.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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3. Re: HELP!

Look in the Euphoria Archives for Mike Carrolls editor.  That link will also 
take you to MEdit.

Happy Hunting,

Travis Beaty
Claude, Texas.

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4. Re: HELP!

On 1 Mar 2001, at 13:47, willabam at gte.net wrote:

> I can not find MEdit anyware.
> Can you hook me up with it?
 
You can use *any* text editor, try your favorite one: in windoze, try Notepad,
Notetab,
Word, Write, Textpad, EditorPro, etc,, anything you want to use is fine, as long
as it
does what you want it to do. You can even use the editor or ide from another 
programming language. I use TextPad from www.textpad.com .

Kat

> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mabrown at SENET.COM.AU>
> To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: HELP!
> 
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > The best way to use Euphoria is to set up a proper work environment
> > from the outset.
> >
> > 1. Get yourself a decent editor. If you are using Windows then "MEdit"
> > (free) is
> >     good. If you go for MEdit there are two versions from memory. One
> > (both?)
> >     works "straight out of the box" with Euphoria. MEdit has some small
> bugs
> >     but you can work around them. It also has syntax highlighting already
> > set up
> >     for Eu.
> >
> >     Another good editor is "Textpad" (shareware). It takes more to set up
> > for Eu
> >     than MEdit but is an excellent editor.
> >
> >     Both of the editors above allow you to run your code direct from the
> > editor......
> >     no need to resort to the DOS prompt! This in my opinion is a MUST.
> >     Textpad can also be set-up to compile and make your programs using the
> > new
> >     translator without having to leave the editor....very handy.
> >
> > 2. If you are running under Windows, Then get yourself one of the
> excellent
> > "help"
> >     versions of the Euphoria documentation. I use the (slightly outdated)
> > one by
> >     Fabio Ramirez. There is a more up-to-date one by Adam Weedon.
> >
> >     With the exception of Textpad, you can get these items via
> > www.rapideuphoria.com
> >
> >     Get Textpad at www.textpad.com
> >
> > Once you have a decent workspace, you'll learn fast.
> >
> > Have Fun.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <willabamm at hotmail.com>
> > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:45 PM
> > Subject: HELP!
> >
> >
> > > I don't know a thing about Euphoria.
> > > 1) How do I start the dang thing?
> > > 2) How do I learn to make source code with it.
> > >      I don't have much skills I don't know C++ or anything.
> > > I do know how to use RPG MAKER 2000 it's a joke. U can't even sell your
> > > games that u make with it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
>

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5. HELP!

Ugh!
I'm swamped in work:(
And besides that, a lot of familly and social life is
kinda....blowing up in my face.
My girl left me and then came back to leave me again
*2, my father is in a coma, I can't get a job and I
have the fever.

To top that, Eu is dead.
Well, ok, I checked it's pulse and it's like 0,5 BPM.
My projects go slow, much thanks to Eu.
I tried to write my own damned EC.LIB library, but
without any solid info on the runtime routines, it
would take ages to do it, and Rob ain't letting
anything lose, nor is he doing anything about it
himself.

Seriously, who gets it into his mind to write a
translator for his not-so-hot programming language,
and requires linking to a precompiled, platform and
compiler dependand lib?
No one, that's just crazy.
Only good for those that fear people seeing their code
(is it *that* bad?).
And we have to suffer from it.

Yeah yeah, I know, I'm  pushing Rob again, bt that's
my job, remember?
I'm not gonna focus on the things about Eu that are
good, I will focus on the things that are bad instead.
So they might get fixed.

If Beta-2 don't have any of the following;
- DLL compilation
- Mapping between existing C code
- LIB compilation
- portable source to runtime library
- Severely increased speed

Then don't even bother updating it.

I hate seeing my compiled programs run slower than my
interpreted ones.
What's the point of having a translator, realy?
If programs run slower or just as fast, and don't use
any of C's features (such as DLLs, Libs, portability,
etc.)?
Waste of code if you ask me, am I right?

We, well, atleast I, want some improvements, in speed
and functionality, even if it requires a total
re-write, NOW! ;)


Mike The Spike
PS. Translator optimisation tip:
The translator can check how many times a variable is
used, and when it isn't used any longer, before
translating to C, so that the need for Ref/DeRef is
oblivished.
When the var isn't used anymore, and you know it,
free() it once, and voila! You have collected some
extra garbage!
So this code:
integer a
a = 10
a = 50
puts("YEAH!!")
becomes:
int *a;
a = (int*)malloc(sizeof(int));
a = 10;
a = 50
free(a);
puts("YEAH!!")

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6. HELP!

I don't know a thing about Euphoria.
1) How do I start the dang thing?
2) How do I learn to make source code with it.
     I don't have much skills I don't know C++ or anything.
I do know how to use RPG MAKER 2000 it's a joke. U can't even sell your 
games that u make with it.

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7. Re: HELP!

Howdy!

<willabamm snip>
I don't know a thing about Euphoria.
1) How do I start the dang thing?
2) How do I learn to make source code with it.
     I don't have much skills I don't know C++ or anything.
</snip>

1.  Put this in a text file and name it hello.ex.:

puts(1, "Hello world!\n")

2.  Now save the file.

3.  Open a DOS window.

4.  At the prompt, type in

ex hello

There you go.  Read the docs, they really come in handy at times like this.

Happy Hunting,

Travis Beaty
Claude, Texas.

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8. Re: HELP!

Hi.

The best way to use Euphoria is to set up a proper work environment
from the outset.

1. Get yourself a decent editor. If you are using Windows then "MEdit"
(free) is
    good. If you go for MEdit there are two versions from memory. One
(both?)
    works "straight out of the box" with Euphoria. MEdit has some small bugs
    but you can work around them. It also has syntax highlighting already
set up
    for Eu.

    Another good editor is "Textpad" (shareware). It takes more to set up
for Eu
    than MEdit but is an excellent editor.

    Both of the editors above allow you to run your code direct from the
editor......
    no need to resort to the DOS prompt! This in my opinion is a MUST.
    Textpad can also be set-up to compile and make your programs using the
new
    translator without having to leave the editor....very handy.

2. If you are running under Windows, Then get yourself one of the excellent
"help"
    versions of the Euphoria documentation. I use the (slightly outdated)
one by
    Fabio Ramirez. There is a more up-to-date one by Adam Weedon.

    With the exception of Textpad, you can get these items via
www.rapideuphoria.com

    Get Textpad at www.textpad.com

Once you have a decent workspace, you'll learn fast.

Have Fun.

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: <willabamm at hotmail.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:45 PM
Subject: HELP!


> I don't know a thing about Euphoria.
> 1) How do I start the dang thing?
> 2) How do I learn to make source code with it.
>      I don't have much skills I don't know C++ or anything.
> I do know how to use RPG MAKER 2000 it's a joke. U can't even sell your
> games that u make with it.
>
>
>

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9. Re: HELP!

Pay special attention to sequences
i.e:  1. how to form them
       2. how to maintain them (append, prepend)
       3. how to slice them
       4. the difference between string and integer

Sequences to me are the heart of Euphoria and make
programming much simpler than anyother language.

Get the Complete Edition from Robert and Junko
Traceing and Profileing your code makes the learning
curve straighten-out *ALOT*.

BE PATIENT, I too was in your shoes and know
first hand what a struggle programming can be.

Take your time and learn from others who have been
around awhile. aka Jiri Babor, Matt Lewis, Derek Parnell
Gabriel Boehme,  Graeme Burke, Wolfgang Fritz, Kat etc..etc
( If I left you out I'm sorry.)

These people are true code guru's and have helped me
tremendously. Most of the afore mentioned people have code
that can be D/Led from the RDS Euphoria Web-Site.

Study the code and most of all, HAVE FUN.

Euman

----- Original Message -----
From: <mabrown at SENET.COM.AU>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 22:25
Subject: Re: HELP!


| Hi.
|
| The best way to use Euphoria is to set up a proper work environment
| from the outset.
|
| 1. Get yourself a decent editor. If you are using Windows then "MEdit"
| (free) is
|     good. If you go for MEdit there are two versions from memory. One
| (both?)
|     works "straight out of the box" with Euphoria. MEdit has some small
bugs
|     but you can work around them. It also has syntax highlighting already
| set up
|     for Eu.
|
|     Another good editor is "Textpad" (shareware). It takes more to set up
| for Eu
|     than MEdit but is an excellent editor.
|
|     Both of the editors above allow you to run your code direct from the
| editor......
|     no need to resort to the DOS prompt! This in my opinion is a MUST.
|     Textpad can also be set-up to compile and make your programs using the
| new
|     translator without having to leave the editor....very handy.
|
| 2. If you are running under Windows, Then get yourself one of the
excellent
| "help"
|     versions of the Euphoria documentation. I use the (slightly outdated)
| one by
|     Fabio Ramirez. There is a more up-to-date one by Adam Weedon.
|
|     With the exception of Textpad, you can get these items via
| www.rapideuphoria.com
|
|     Get Textpad at www.textpad.com
|
| Once you have a decent workspace, you'll learn fast.
|
| Have Fun.
|
| Mark
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: <willabamm at hotmail.com>
| To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
| Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:45 PM
| Subject: HELP!
|
|
| > I don't know a thing about Euphoria.
| > 1) How do I start the dang thing?
| > 2) How do I learn to make source code with it.
| >      I don't have much skills I don't know C++ or anything.
| > I do know how to use RPG MAKER 2000 it's a joke. U can't even sell your
| > games that u make with it.
| >
| >
| >
|
|
|
|

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10. HELP!

I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What is 
happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when there 
are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.

Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?

Thanks,

Judith

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11. Re: HELP!

On 4 Oct 2001, at 19:55, Judith wrote:

> 
> I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What is 
> happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when there 
> are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.
> 
> Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?

I don't know windoze programming, but i have found the little info boxes in 
Taskinfo2000 to be useful in tracking down resource hogs. For instance, i 
wrote some mirc code that would gradually do as you describe, consume all 
the resources, and Taskinfo was what told me what app was using what 
resources. Untill i recoded it, i simply shut down the app once a day and 
restarted it, and this helped to a degree, altho this would be unacceptable in 
the IDE. Look at http://www.iarsn.com/download.html#TaskInfo to get info 
and download it. I wish we could get this info with an Eu app, to provide 
preemptive warnings about resource useage and such.

Kat

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12. Re: HELP!

Hello Judith,

I dont use win32lib a whole lot anymore but I can give you an
idea what you might look for.....

take this example for instance

if iMsg = WM_CREATE then

pen1 = c_func(xCreatePen,{PS_SOLID, 1, 16777215})

elsif iMsg = WM_PAINT then

junk = c_func(xSelectObject,{hdc, pen1})

If I were to xCreatePen when I had a Paint event
instead of xSelectObject I would eat up all of
my resources very quickly.....

Long story short:

Looking for Pens or Images that are created when
an onPaint event occurs would be my first thought.....

Euman
euman at bellsouth.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith" <camping at txcyber.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 14:55
Subject: HELP!


> 
> I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What is 
> happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when there 
> are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.
> 
> Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Judith
> 
> 
>

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13. Re: HELP!

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C14C2D.7D4381E0
	charset="iso-8859-1"

Rob Kraybill says he's creating 1000 small Toggle Pictures
I would suggest a chain image

1 bitmap many images
Look at the attaches .jpg for an idea....what Im talking about..

Euman
euman at bellsouth.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith" <camping at txcyber.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 14:55
Subject: HELP!


> 
> I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What is 
> happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when there 
> are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.
> 
> Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Judith
> 
> 
> 

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C14C2D.7D4381E0
Content-Type: image/jpeg;
	name="drvfold.JPG"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

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14. Re: HELP!

>
> I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What
is
> happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when
there
> are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.
>
> Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?
>
Hi Judith,

I've noticed SetFont() can really chew up resources, especially if you
re-assign fonts after initialisation... the previous memory doesn't get
released.

Just a stab in the dark.... worth checking out...

Ross

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15. Re: HELP!

Hi Euman,

I'm a beginner. I want to place a selection of over 40 bitmaps on the
screen in a sort of spreadsheet. I've looked at some other programs which
work on the same principle (BlackJack for example) and they all use "chain
images".  To me it seems that in this way more coding is involved. What's
the advantage of a chain image except of having one image instead of 40
images / files and less disk-reading?

Bye,

Jasper.




euman@bellsout
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cc:
04-10-2001           Subject:     Re: HELP!
00:04
Please respond
to EUforum







Rob Kraybill says he's creating 1000 small Toggle Pictures
I would suggest a chain image

1 bitmap many images
-- Look at the attaches .jpg for an idea....what Im talking about..  Jasper
/ del

Euman
euman at bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith" <camping at txcyber.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 14:55
Subject: HELP!


>
> I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What is
> happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when there
> are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.
>
> Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judith
>
>

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16. Re: HELP!

Hello Jasper,

In the example attachment I sent earlier (drvfold.jpg) there are 9 images
each of the 9 images are 16x16 pixels (height, width)

If we only had to code one line to bring in this one file
we are at an advantage already. 

To seperate the images we have several options. 

First, MS has made it easy for us to use these by utilizing ImageList 

hImageList = c_func(xImageList_Create,{16,16,ILC_COLOR16,2,10})
  
hBitmap = LoadImage("drvfold.bmp", IMAGE_BITMAP) 
junk = c_func(xImageList_Add,{hImageList,hBitmap,NULL})
c_proc(xDeleteObject, {hBitmap})

Note: I utilized a bitmap in the code.

TreeView and ListView use Imagelist as a standard in most apps. 

The second ofcourse would be to create your own methods.
Im pretty sure someone already has an example on the Eu-contrib page.

All-in-all, the advantages would be less code, typeing, app size,
number of files to carry around and several others Im sure that
dont come to mind right off....

Hope this helps!

Euman
euman at bellsouth.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Jasper_Holshuijsen at dsw.nl>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 09:32
Subject: Re: HELP!


> 
> 
> Hi Euman,
> 
> I'm a beginner. I want to place a selection of over 40 bitmaps on the
> screen in a sort of spreadsheet. I've looked at some other programs which
> work on the same principle (BlackJack for example) and they all use "chain
> images".  To me it seems that in this way more coding is involved. What's
> the advantage of a chain image except of having one image instead of 40
> images / files and less disk-reading?
> 
> Bye,
> 
> Jasper.
> 
> 
>                                                                               
>
>                     euman@bellsout                                            
>
>                     h.net                To:     EUforum <EUforum at
>                     topica.com>
>                                          cc:                                  
>
>                     04-10-2001           Subject:     Re: HELP!               
>
>                     00:04                                                     
>
>                     Please respond                                            
>
>                     to EUforum                                                
>
>                                                                               
>
>                                                                               
>
> 
> 
> Rob Kraybill says he's creating 1000 small Toggle Pictures
> I would suggest a chain image
> 
> 1 bitmap many images
> -- Look at the attaches .jpg for an idea....what Im talking about..  Jasper
> / del
> 
> Euman
> euman at bellsouth.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith" <camping at txcyber.com>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 14:55
> Subject: HELP!
> 
> 
> > I've been working with Rob Kraybill on the bug he found in IDE. What is
> > happening is all system resources on my computer get used up when there
> > are a lot of controls in IDE. This happens even right after a reboot.
> >
> > Can anyone please tell me what kinds of things to look for?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Judith
> >
> >
> 
>

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