1. RE: Euphoria newsgroup

This has been discussed in the past and here are the main reasons:
1.  Not everybody has access to a news server that carries that 
newsgroup.
2.  News servers don't always pick up every message posted to a 
newsgroup.
3.  Not everybody knows how to use newsgroups.  (Email or the Topica web 
interface is simply much easier for most users.)
4.  If the newsgroup becomes active, it becomes a target for SPAM...

Did I miss anything?

-- Brian


Jeroen Roeterd wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> "I started with euphoria and found this newsgroup alt.lang.euphoria 
> quickly. But in 1 week not
> one message? Why is that?"
> 
> In respons off this question I got the answer that everybody is using de 
> mailinglist.
> Personally I find a newsgroup more pleasant to work wiht than a 
> mailinglist (even more because I use Calypso as a mailclient and it 
> can't present threads) and I think I am not the only one. Why not move 
> the discussion to alt.lang.euphoria?
> 
> Greetings,
> Jeroen Roeterd
> 
> 
> Groetjes,
> 
> Jeroen Roeterd
> jeroen at roeterd.com
> ICQ 120779246
> 
>

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2. RE: Euphoria newsgroup

Brian Broker wrote:
> This has been discussed in the past and here are the main reasons:
> 1.  Not everybody has access to a news server that carries that
> newsgroup.
> 2.  News servers don't always pick up every message posted to a
> newsgroup.
> 3.  Not everybody knows how to use newsgroups.  (Email or the Topica web
>
> interface is simply much easier for most users.)
> 4.  If the newsgroup becomes active, it becomes a target for SPAM...
>
> Did I miss anything?

A couple of things:

5. Rob can control who posts to this list, thus keeping the likes
of Mike the Spike from spewing hatred and threats at everyone.

6. There are more than a few strange people who's lives are so
empty and worthless that the only entertainment they can find
consists of 'taking over' newsgroups, burying any useful info
in tons of off-topic rambles.

7. Posting to a newsgroup using your "real" e-mail address is
a sure way to increase the number of spam messages you get.
That's not to say that spammers couldn't gather addresses from
this mailing list, but it's a lot more trouble just to get a few
hundred names.

Regards,
Irv

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3. RE: Euphoria newsgroup

Kat wrote:
> 
> I cannot access the newsgroup.
> 

Anyone can access newsgroups using Google newsgroups.

For instance look at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=alt.lang.euphoria

By "signing up" to google groups you are also allowed to post 
messages which I have done on other newsgroups.
I have never received any email from Google after signing up for the 
free newsgroup service.

Is it better than a Topica mailling list???

Do newsgroups go down as much as Topica?
Is there "as much" advertising associated with newsgroups?
For most people, are Usenet readers easier to use than email?

There is really no clear winner.

Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com

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4. RE: Euphoria newsgroup

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I suppose my take on it all is that I think it would waste everyone's time
to change something that works well.

Another benefit of using this list, over what 'might' not be available with
the newsgroup or google's interface to it, is that emails to this list come
straight to my mailbox, and a such I don't need to perform 'any' extra steps
to read the threads.  Even if the google interface does the same thing, I
refer you back to my first sentence... IMHO, the initial actions of signing
up for the group in the first place is time I'd rather not spend.

... just my $0.02, of course... but those are 'Canadian' pennies, so not
even really worth that... about one and a third cents after conversion, I
believe :)

Mark.





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5. RE: Euphoria newsgroup

Mark Moran wrote:

> ... just my $0.02, of course... but those are 'Canadian' pennies, so not
> even really worth that... about one and a third cents after conversion, 
> I believe :)

Canadian posters can give us their 2 Loonies worth, I guess:)

Irv

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