1. stupid win2k box
I've installed Euphoria on my Win2k box at work, and a whole lot of things
are stuffing up.
In EE:CS, clicking the mouse *may* cause the whole program to close, with
whatever hasn't been saved going down with it.
A lot of the DOS demo's don't work.
You can't execute your program from within the editor.
It's installed in c:\EUPHORIA, normal place.
Any help?
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2. Re: stupid win2k box
On 17 Jul 2002, at 13:02, mistertrik at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I've installed Euphoria on my Win2k box at work, and a whole lot of things are
> stuffing up.
>
> In EE:CS, clicking the mouse *may* cause the whole program to close, with
> whatever hasn't been saved going down with it.
>
> A lot of the DOS demo's don't work.
>
> You can't execute your program from within the editor.
>
> It's installed in c:\EUPHORIA, normal place.
>
> Any help?
Yes, go back to win95 or win98, or up to ME or XP. Or *nix. Or a Mac, i hear
the radical xtian right think they are all goddless communists now.
Kat
3. Re: stupid win2k box
it's at WORK. Changing OS's is not an option. Plus, I can't do the dual boot
thing, cause all of the computers have spyware on them, so that when you log
on to the network, it gives them your entire computer configuration,
including the list of installed software... I was only able to install Euph,
cause I needed it for a work purpose. :P
But seriously, given that I am forced to use win2k, what options do I have?
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>From: Kat <gertie at PELL.NET>
>Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com
>To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
>Subject: Re: stupid win2k box
>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:32:34 -0500
>
>
>On 17 Jul 2002, at 13:02, mistertrik at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> > I've installed Euphoria on my Win2k box at work, and a whole lot of
>things are
> > stuffing up.
> >
> > In EE:CS, clicking the mouse *may* cause the whole program to close,
>with
> > whatever hasn't been saved going down with it.
> >
> > A lot of the DOS demo's don't work.
> >
> > You can't execute your program from within the editor.
> >
> > It's installed in c:\EUPHORIA, normal place.
> >
> > Any help?
>
>Yes, go back to win95 or win98, or up to ME or XP. Or *nix. Or a Mac, i
>hear
>the radical xtian right think they are all goddless communists now.
>
>
>
>Kat
>
>
>
>
4. Re: stupid win2k box
- Posted by rubis at fem.unicamp.br
Jul 17, 2002
I use win2k with eu with no problems. Try use the MEdit editor for
windows. It's in the archives.
At 00:02 17/7/2002, you wrote:
>are stuffing up.
>
>In EE:CS, clicking the mouse *may* cause the whole program to close, with
>whatever hasn't been saved going down with it.
>
>A lot of the DOS demo's don't work.
>
>You can't execute your program from within the editor.
>
>It's installed in c:\EUPHORIA, normal place.
>
>Any help?
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>.______<-------------------\__
>/ _____<--------------------__|===
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>\__| Mr Trick
>
>
>
>
5. Re: stupid win2k box
Thank you, that's much better now.
I think the mouse problems I had are due to an incompatibility between the
mouse routines in EU, and NT-based systems.
I had a similar problem when I made a DOS game with mouse control: It worked
fine under win98, but on NT4, (and I presume NT5) clicking the mouse button
would sometimes cause the interpreter to crash, particularly if you were
winning...
Rob, do you know why this happens?
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>From: rubis at fem.unicamp.br
>Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com
>To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
>Subject: Re: stupid win2k box
>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:20:25 -0300
>
>
>I use win2k with eu with no problems. Try use the MEdit editor for
>windows. It's in the archives.
>
>
>At 00:02 17/7/2002, you wrote:
>>are stuffing up.
>>
>>In EE:CS, clicking the mouse *may* cause the whole program to close, with
>>whatever hasn't been saved going down with it.
>>
>>A lot of the DOS demo's don't work.
>>
>>You can't execute your program from within the editor.
>>
>>It's installed in c:\EUPHORIA, normal place.
>>
>>Any help?
>>=====================================================
>>.______<-------------------\__
>>/ _____<--------------------__|===
>>||_ <-------------------/
>>\__| Mr Trick
>>
>>
>
>
6. Re: stupid win2k box
Mr Trick writes:
> I had a similar problem when I made a DOS game with
> mouse control: It worked
> fine under win98, but on NT4, (and I presume NT5) clicking
> the mouse button would sometimes cause the interpreter
> to crash, particularly if you were winning...
>
> Rob, do you know why this happens?
No I don't. The mouse works for me on XP.
I've been aware for a long time that the support for DOS on NT etc.
is a bit flaky around the edges.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
7. stupid win2k box
- Posted by poplar at vicon.net
Jul 18, 2002
Yup,
Rob said: "I've been aware for a long time that the support for DOS
on NT etc. is a bit flaky around the edges."
I'm having troubles too with NT. What works fine on Win98, messes up
a lot on NT, in fact NT's reaction of choice to what looks like
harmless code is to freeze up. I can sometimes get out with the
three-fingered salute, but often not. Reboot. And I'm not using
mouse routines. Tracking down the problems is hard or impossible so
far. Sometimes time() used for pauses seems to be the culprit, but
when I test time() separately from various programs, it works. ??? I
am doing just DOS stuff with ee.exe...
Of course all this is professional development.
Crashingly yours,
--Quark
8. Re: stupid win2k box
Mr Trick wrote:
> I've installed Euphoria on my Win2k box at work, and a whole lot of things
> are stuffing up.
>
> In EE:CS, clicking the mouse *may* cause the whole program to close, with
> whatever hasn't been saved going down with it.
> [...]
> You can't execute your program from within the editor.
WinNT variants (NT4, 2000 and XP) don't fully support the Long Filename
libraries and system calls that EE:CS uses to deal with the filesystem. Not
something that's easily fixed.
I did try to get EE:CS working with the Windows interpreter (exw) but there
are too many dos_interrupt()s and lots of custom code designed specifically
for the DOS platform. Basically, I've coded it into a corner.
If I was going to fix it, I'd be taking a look at the Linux port of EE to
see if I can steal^H^H^H^H^H borrow the code that makes it work outside DOS.
;)
Don't hold your breath though...
I've heard good things about both Judith's IDE and the Crimson Editor -
maybe you could take a look at those?
Carl
9. Re: stupid win2k box
Carl wrote:
> If I was going to fix it, I'd be taking a look at the Linux port of EE to
> see if I can steal^H^H^H^H^H borrow the code that makes it work outside
> DOS. ;)
> Don't hold your breath though...
Last I looked, it should work. I disabled the mouse handling, because in the
initial Linux release, the mouse would select text, even if you didn't want
it to. This was irritating, to say the least. But if the mouse is better
behaved these days, it could go back in.
I might take a look at it some time myself - I run Linux on my home machine
as my primary OS, and I really miss the DOS editor.
It wasn't that hard to rip out the non-portable code. A lot of it was little
cleanups because graphics characters weren't supported in Linux.
-- David Cuny
