1. RE: [OT] Win XP Activation ?
Try www.astalavista.com ...
Peek up a search engine ...
There is a "patch" somewere ...
It is all I can tell you in the limits of the law.
( Microsoft law ? ... )
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From: "Al Getz" <Xaxo at aol.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: RE: [OT] Win XP Activation ?
Greg Haberek wrote:
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> > Anyone have any information on the new activation used
> > by Microsoft? Any way around it when you fool around with
> > your hardware a bit?
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> This was discussed a while ago on the forum. I tried telling everyone=
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> that I
> never 'activated' anything, and haven't had a problem at all with lock=
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> outs,
> funny issues or whatever. I change out hardware constantly.
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> The only problem I've had was with Windows Update. I can't download any
> service packs. This, however, is only partially related to the=20
> activation.
> See, my key was probably registered by someone else and therefore mine=
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> will
> not work, or my key may not be valid at all. Either way, I have a=20
> utility
> that I can use to change my key, so every now and then I play with it. I=
> have a list of 100 or so keys and I mark off which ones I've tried. So=
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> far
> I'm at about 15 or so, with no luck getting updates.
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> ~Greg
> Windows XP Pro
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Hello Greg,
You mean you didnt buy your copy of XP ?
Sounds like a corp version of XP to me.
I dont like the idea of activation.
I thought it was a one-time-only deal, where you activate
and that's done. But Nooooooo, MS wants you to re-activate
if more then 3 hardware items change in the system.
Not only did they over do it, i think they are up to something
more severe. If someone doesnt stop them, this kind of=20
thing is just going to grow to an even worse state.
How much money can they possibly be losing due to piracy
of their op system? Most people that do pirate software
wont buy the version if they cant get it for free, so
i believe MS loses very little money because of this.
The only thing i see them doing is degrading their charity
system if anything. People who cant possibly afford it=20
wont be able to get it anymore. That's how i see it.
Who feels like contacting MS every time you change out your
hardware?
Hopefully XP gets outdated REALLY fast so we can either get
by this problem or see once and for all whats up next.
Seems to me they got their roots in really deep now in
society, where we are very close to being totally dependant=20
on them for software. This isnt good at all.
I guess last time this issue was on the board i must have
been immersed in something else and didnt realize the importance.
Any comments/opinions are very welcome.
Take care for now (except for you MS),
Al
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2. RE: [OT] Win XP Activation ?
Hi,
You should really try Linux. Really, Microsoft is a
pain in the butt with its nonsense policies and
restrictions. Linux is not perfect in hardware support
but it is getting there. There are a whole lot of
applications that linux has that can satisfy almost
every need of a person switching from windows. As
rgards your scanner, you should check out the sane
project to see whether your scanner is supported. I am
now using Mozilla on Debian Linux to type this.
The sane project is located at:
http://www.mostang.com/sane/
Do let me know if you need any help on Linx. I will do
my best.
Thanks and Regards,
Michael.
LINUX RULES!!!
--- Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> jc at cowgar.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Try www.astalavista.com ...
> > > Peek up a search engine ...
> > > There is a "patch" somewere ...
> > >
> > > It is all I can tell you in the limits of the
> law.
> > > ( Microsoft law ? ... )
> >
> > Fact of the matter is that when you buy software
> you do not own it. You
> > are licensed to use it. The person selling the
> software could place
> > restrictions into the license how ever they want.
> It would be perfectly
> > legal to say that you can only use the software,
> while your monitor is
> > turned off and mouse disconnected, and before use
> you must eat 5 eggs
> > with lettuce on top. However dumb that may sound,
> if that's the license,
> >
> > and you agree to it by purchasing the software, if
> you use the software
> > with your monitor on, or your mouse connected, or
> if you did not eat 5
> > eggs with lettuce on top you are in violation of
> the software license
> > and the licensing party has the right to disable
> the software and if
> > they desire, remove it from your computer.
> >
> > If you don't like the license, then you have a
> choice not to buy it.
> >
> > My XP license had to be activated, it did
> invalidate on my once when I
> > got tired of "Serious Security Hole found" news
> releases and decided to
> > split my 40g drive into two 20g, 1 for XP and the
> other for Linux. I had
> >
> > to call MS and tell them what I had did, and they
> then gave me a number
> > to re-activate my XP. I also snuck in a, this
> Linux is pretty cool, I
> > find myself using it more than XP, line 
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> Hello Jeremy,
>
> Recap:
> >If you don't like the license, then you have a
> choice not to buy it.
>
> Is that really true though?
> If you ask me, it's more like Microsoft has us all
> 'hooked' on
> their op sys, because it's compatible with other
> things and
> we've gotten used to using it now.
> If you have purchased hardware that is dependent on
> Windows, how do you operate it without Windows?
>
>
> I'd dump MS software in a minute if i could find
> something
> that would take the place of what i need now...
> 1. decent Browser for the web
> 2. compatibility with scanner
>
> Is it possible to get Linux (any version) to work
> with hardware
> like the scanner, and have a decent browser?
>
> Heck, for the price of a decent windows upgrade i
> could buy
> a new scanner!
>
> Hmmm, maybe i should think about Linux a little
> more.
> I wonder what it would take to switch over from
> Windows,
> and how well it works these days?
>
> Take care for now,
> Al
>
>
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3. RE: [OT] Win XP Activation ?
Greg Haberek wrote:
>
>
> ...maybe we should start an openWindows project.
>
>
Try this: http://reactos.com/
Marc
4. RE: [OT] Win XP Activation ?
- Posted by eugtk at yahoo.com
Sep 14, 2003
--- Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> wrote:
> I'd dump MS software in a minute if i could find
> something
> that would take the place of what i need now...
> 1. decent Browser for the web
> 2. compatibility with scanner
>
> Is it possible to get Linux (any version) to work
> with hardware
> like the scanner, and have a decent browser?
>
> Heck, for the price of a decent windows upgrade i
> could buy
> a new scanner!
You shouldn't have to. Mandrake (as one example)
works just fine with my cheap WalMart HP scanner
- no setup whatever involved. As far as browsers,
there are at least half a dozen different browsers,
all of which work nicely, and are more HTML standards
compliant than IE. Best, IMO, is Firebird, since
it allows all sorts of user control, like preventing
popup ads, etc. Opera is also good, but too "Windozy"
for my taste.
At any rate, you should try it. For an investment of
about $12 you can get the 3-CD Mandrake 9.1 set from
cheapbytes.com. It takes about 30-45 minutes to
install, and you're off and running.
Irv
5. RE: [OT] Win XP Activation ?
- Posted by jxliv7 at hotmail.com
Sep 14, 2003
> David Cuny wrote:
>
>
> I'd recommend getting a copy of Knoppix for anyone who's thinking about
> going
> to Linux, but not sure if their hardware will work. Knoppix is a
> "Live-CD",
> which means you can boot the full operating system from CD without ever
> touching your hard drive. It's a full version of Linux with great
> hardware
> detection, and if you're modem is too slow to download a CD worth of
> stuff,
> you can find it at places like CheapBytes.
>
dang it, David, that was going to be my suggestion. i just downloaded
the latest Knoppix v3.2 (694MB, so it takes a 700MB CD burner) and it is
a sweet distro. it runs without touching my Win2k NTFS OS because it
boots from the CD and the hard disk is never mounted except as read
only. KDE, Gnome, tons of apps, lots of fun, and very good looking. it
has converted more than a few people to Linux...
--
jon
