OpenEuphoria

2. Re: Move to github?

• Posted by _tom (admin) May 23, 2017
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OpenEuphoria source-code is hosted on our own server.

We use Mercurial (on our server) to process our files.

We use SourceForge as a location for user downloads.

The "Misc Menu" provides:

• SCM :: link to our source-code
• SourceForge :: link to old code, and downloads

_tom

4. Re: Move to github?

• Posted by mollusk May 23, 2017
• 1704 views

Ah I see, so something like bitbucket (which has Mercurial support) wouldn't be a consideration?

EDIT: The pricing doesn't look that bad. Not sure if it's less than running your own server for hosting. I'm sure you have already seen their pricing. Up to 5 users is free, but I'm not sure how many contributors the project has.

6. Re: Move to github?

• Posted by ghaberek (admin) May 24, 2017
• 1696 views

When I use Github, I feel more compelled to push updates more frequently to participate in the community (however small it may be for any given project).

When I use Bitbucket, I feel no compulsion to push anything. I can't find words on why, exactly, but I sort of feel like my project is on its own island with no one around.

-Greg

8. Re: Move to github?

• Posted by mollusk May 26, 2017
• 1592 views

Yes this is the other thing about sourceforge, in the last few years they have lost a lot of trust. I remember the internet blowing up over how the GIMP project was treated. Besides that, I think it's obvious that not many people consider sourceforge relevant anymore, and have moved their projects to other places. I'm not going to sit here and down play the major task it would be for developers using a mercurial based version control solution to merge a large project with a long commit history to a different version control solution.

As far as I know, the OpenEuphoria project has no sponsorship, a very small team, and do not work on the project full time. That said, I think it's imperative to start considering getting some help whether that's finding a sponsor (unlikely) or moving the code base to a place with more traffic. In the long run this not only provides the possibility of gaining more attention and contributors, but also and exit strategy for those who want to see the project survive but no longer have the desire/time to continue development.

Now, it may be the the developers are happy with how things are right now and would like it to stay that way long into the future. I just don't think the project will last if things remain in their current form. Personally I'd like to see Euphoria be a competitive option in the programming languages space as it has a lot to offer that many languages don't (i.e being a scripting language with the option to compile). Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of programming languages out there that offer interesting features (such as elixir, haskell, ocaml, rust, nim, julia etc) but I still think Euphoria hits that sweet spot.

I'd say that overall, if anybody wants the project to have a chance to thrive and survive in modern times, something has to be done. Distribution is only one small step and while it may not be the biggest issue or even biggest priority, it's still a crucial point that needs serious consideration and discussion. I encourage everyone with thoughts on this topic to reply here as a community so we can collectively gain perspective on the matter.

What does the OpenEuphoria project mean to you and would you care if faded into the void?

10. Re: Move to github?

• Posted by Icy_Viking May 28, 2017
• 1551 views

I agree with Pete that the archive does need a overhaul. I also know it too will take a lot of work to get it done. I like the idea of up/down votes. Maybe also a way to donate to the program author, if the program is really good. Like the old Euphoria dollar thing. Maybe a link to their paypal or patreon? I'm also all for moving Euphoria to github. I realize this would all be a lot of work, but it would be worth it. Maybe OE could look into getting a sponsor as others have said or maybe opening up a Patreon? These are just my thoughts. I'd really like to see Euphoria flourish again!

12. Re: Move to github?

• Posted by _tom (admin) May 29, 2017
• 1513 views

Jeremy Cowgar thought of Git a long time ago:

github.com/jcowgar/openeuphoria

Looks like having a clone of the Mercurial repository is workable.

Just needs an update.

_tom