RE: New Euphoria Users Website
My proxy at office would not let me connect to any sort of chat room,
and I can't bypass it because I'm on a local network. And I've no
Internet connection at home; when I buy a new computer this wil
hopefully change.
I don't know if many people there are in the same sort of situation. If
so, the chat room could even unexpectedly turn out to be harmful to Eu
community, because it splits it.
CChris
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> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:33:18 +0000
> From: Chris Bensler <bensler at mail.com>
> Subject: RE: New Euphoria Users Website (Was Re: Re: What we really need...)
>
> You have obviously not been in the chat room..
> It is extremely beneficial.
>
> And is the only place where I have ever been able to _realistically_
> collaborate on anything.
>
> heaps.e, clib.e, structs.e, tcp.e, sharedmem.e, Simple RichEdit, Insert
> Bitmaps, Bass, BassMod, HawkNL, Rich Editor, stack.e
>
> ..and lots of others that I can't think of...
> ... are _all_ _direct_ products of the chatroom
>
> Even the fore-mentioned contribs pale in comparison to some of the
> things that are _actually_ going on in there.
>
> Most of these were extensively tested before ever reaching the general
> EU community, and through ease of realtime communication, were able to
> voice even insignificant opinions about any given project, instantly,
> and have it fixed, instantly, and have it updated, practically
> instantly.
>
> There are also some *big* projects in the works in there. They haven't
> been released, so it's not my place to name anything.
>
> I currently use a whole suite of libraries, as my standard programming
> set, all developed through cooperatives efforts, made possible through
> the chatroom. Including an extensive, stable, win32 API thin-wrapper set
> that I haven't had to modify once since July.
>
> We are also in the initial phase of establishing a coders organization,
> to help with standardizations, and upping the quality and of the
> contributions, and hopefully the language in general.
>
> Things are actually _happening_ in there, instead of just thinking up
> ways for other people to make euphoria the invincible wonder language,
> and then passing the buck.
>
> No attack on anyone intended, but that's the way it is. I've been a part
> of this mailing list for over 3 years, and I see the same thing happen
> all the time. We bitch, we come up with a plan, and that's the end of
> it. And I'm no different. We all wanna have our say, but we're all to
> busy to do anything about it, or else "it's Robert Craig's problem".
>
> I for one actually _do_ want to see euphoria succeed, and the chatroom
> was the very first step.
> We have an average count of 12 users, the majority of the time, and
> there are different people everyday. Of the regular visitors, we have
> _all_ collaborated on projects, and ARE collaborating on projects.
>
> It would be nice to see quite a bit more, but hey, in comparison to the
> size of active eu community, I think that's pretty good. I'd like to see
> %5-10, instead of just %3 though.
>
> Chris
>
> C. K. Lester wrote:
> > > > > How about EuForge ?
> > > >
> > > > Can we all have our own directories? Run our own programs? etc...?
> > >
> > > I don't know, it's not mine. Remember, when i registered the #euphoria
> > > channel (twice!!) no one came to it, so i was d$%med if i was going to
> > > register a domain, i'd have run everyone off of it just by owning it!
> >
> > Obviously a chat room is far less needed right now than a full-blown
> > EUPHORIA developer's web site (of course, with newbie and expert
> > sections).
> > You have to have users in the tens of thousands across the globe before
> > a
> > chat room would become worthwhile.
> >
> >
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