Re: recent events

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I have read the recent series of posts/flames with intense discomfort and
dismay.  The personal attacks have got to stop and got to stop now.  First,
I apologize to Jok3r for my attacks on him as a "cracker"--for the record, I
don't recant anything I wrote, but the fact that I wrote it to the list
rather than by private email.

Some members of the list may be inclined to dismiss what I have to say
because I have myself transgressed--so be it.  The fact that I too am wrong
doesn't make flame wars right.  We as a group are hurting too many feelings
and losing too many members.  The list seems to be no longer about
principles but about personalities--we seem to have opinions about each
other's motives, intelligence, integrity, and programming skill.  We are
killing this wonderful community.

For my part, I refuse to continue to harm the Eu community.  I have set the
following code of civility for myself:

1.  This list is about the Euphoria programming language--all else (other
languages, belief systems, lifestyles, morals, values, etc.) are outside
issues.  If I have an opinion on an outside issue, I will keep it to myself
or express it by private email.

2.  I will debate any Euphoria issue freely and fully according to my
convictions.  If this causes me to attack a Euphoria idea or program, I will
do so but will NOT attack the proponent of the idea or the programmer.
Doubtful cases will be resolved in favor of silence.

3.  I will not attack or even question anyone else's intelligence,
integrity, morality, beliefs, motives, or programming skill--no matter what
my private opinion is.

4.  If my intelligence, integrity, etc. is attacked I will defend myself but
not reply in kind.

5.  Should I transgress these guidelines, I will issue an immediate and
entire (no self-justification or excuses) public apology to the offended
individual and to the list.

It is my sincere hope that others will adhere to similar standards of
civility.

As for the exchange between Everett and Rob--it is tragic, and I can't agree
with either of you about it.  I will say no more publicly.

Rett, sometimes you inspire me and sometimes you piss me off--but you always
make me think and I value that--you have my email, please use it.

For anyone who wishes to discuss this topic or any other matter privately my
email is
mike-nelson-ODAAT at worldnet.att.net

-- Mike Nelson

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