1. Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Is there anybody, who can help me? I did have a look at the language Euphoria
whithin a dokumentation and firstly i was "euphorisch"...
what a great language! It seems to be very easy to understand, like Hypertalk,
VB or thomething like this. So i did install the software to make some tests. But
all i could see were a plenty of files and i didnt know, what to do with all
that. Then I read, that you have to download a GUI, if you wants to use it. So I
download a Gui, but I did see only some more Files, without knowing, what to do
with it. To click on eatch file didnt work. I tried to find a program, you can
click on it, to open a GUI, to have a chance to make the first step. But I
couldnt find anything. And i didnt find a help-dokumentation, whitch I was able
to undertand, what they are speaking about. Is there anybody, who can help me, or
is Euphoria only a Language for "top-programmer-people", who has many experience
with languages like c++? Please help me. Thank you.

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2. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Hi

Work your way through this - no cheating, type everything out - if you want
tutoring, ask me in one of the forums there.

Chris

http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm
http://uboard.proboards32.com/
http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html

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3. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Chris Burch wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Work your way through this - no cheating, type everything out - if you want
> tutoring, ask me in one of the forums there.

http://uboard.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=Pupils&action=display&thread=1102593001

(thats that that is!)

> 
> Chris
> 
> <a
> href="http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm">http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm</a>
> <a href="http://uboard.proboards32.com/">http://uboard.proboards32.com/</a>
> <a
> href="http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html">http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html</a>


http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm
http://uboard.proboards32.com/
http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html

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4. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Chris Burch wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Work your way through this - no cheating, type everything out - if you want
> tutoring, ask me in one of the forums there.
> 
> Chris
> 
> <a
> href="http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm">http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm</a>
> <a href="http://uboard.proboards32.com/">http://uboard.proboards32.com/</a>
> <a
> href="http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html">http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html</a>


Feel free to also utilize the Yahoo groups page I have set up.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/programming_euphoria/


Regards,
Vincent

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5. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Hi,

Which GUI have you downloaded? Please download EuVIDE - bound win32lib IDE
(Oct 24/05) from recent user contrib. You will be able to try out examples
using the same.

Rad.

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6. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

hi Chris...sorry, I couldn`t answer earlier. Ok, i will check it out.
Thank you for your information and your offert. 
By

Uwe

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7. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

... hi Chris, thank you again, but I lost my intress in Euphoria.
I see, that it is also nessesary to spend your time at first in Dos befor having
a chance to use Euphoria
and you have firstly to search, install and compose many files, only for
starting the Programm.
Its realy much to complicate and all deskriptions, whow to come in, dosen`t work
by me.

I decided now for Delphi... installation, one click and you can start writing a
program with a complitely GUI.
Thats easy.

Thank you and by.
uwe

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8. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Uwe gruenewald wrote:
> 
> 
> ... hi Chris, thank you again, but I lost my intress in Euphoria.
> I see, that it is also nessesary to spend your time at first in Dos befor
> having
> a chance to use Euphoria 
> and you have firstly to search, install and compose many files, only for
> starting
> the Programm.
> Its realy much to complicate and all deskriptions, whow to come in, dosen`t
> work by me.
> 
> I decided now for Delphi... installation, one click and you can start writing
> a program with a complitely GUI.
> Thats easy.
> 
> Thank you and by.
> uwe

Sorry to see you leave... Euphoria is the easiest programming language I have
ever used. Delphi, while nice, is very expensive costing up to $3,000 for the
Architect version of the IDE+compiler. Euphoria is free and open-source, expect
for the translator, binder, and fast C backend source... but even all that is
only $167 USD, with one free upgrade then the rest forever at upgrade price.

Alot of people dont need those products, so everything is free lunch for them.


Cheers,
Vincent

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9. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Hi

No problem

I started with GWBasix, moved to PCC, then Delphi - which I thought was the bees
knees, until I discovered C again (gcc on Linux), and finally I came across this
'hobby' language almost by accident - and to be quite honest, once you start to
grasp the sequence concept, and its ease of use of syntax, well I haven't look
back since.

Good luck with Delphi though - its a very powerful and widely supported
language, I just found its strings / pointers and objects a bit - irritating -
sometimes.

Chris



http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm
http://uboard.proboards32.com/
http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/EUSQLite/eusql.html

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10. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

I see, that are good arguments and I must admit, the language by itself realy
seams to be easy. So it´s a pitty to give it up.
But the periphery is so comlicated to handle, that´s very frustrating, when
there is no surface for comming in.
Why euphoria is so hidden in this funtionality?
Why is it possible to open Delpi with a click and you can set buttons and fields
and there is a prepared place for scripting and why doesn`t the same work in
Euphoria?
For example, who want´s nowadays going back to the routs, to learn Dos again?
Not everybody is grown up with that old way to use a computer.
I don´t see, why it should be nessesary to spend time in learning an outmoded
concept?
I like it to use "clicky bunty" and i also have to present programs with
handsome fields an buttons.
Give me a surface like in delphi and a same easy way to get in and I surely
could find many people to convince of Euphoria.
Perhaps Euphoria isn`t that sophisticated and it´s better to wait, till it will
be growing up out of the range of hackers?

Cheers,
Uwe

Vincent wrote:
> Sorry to see you leave... Euphoria is the easiest programming language I have
> ever used. Delphi, while nice, is very expensive costing up to $3,000 for the
> Architect version of the IDE+compiler. Euphoria is free and open-source,
> expect
> for the translator, binder, and fast C backend source... but even all that is
> only $167 USD, with one free upgrade then the rest forever at upgrade price.
> 
> Alot of people dont need those products, so everything is free lunch for them.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Vincent

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11. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Uwe gruenewald wrote:
> 
> I see, that are good arguments and I must admit, the language by itself realy
> seams to be easy. So it´s a pitty to give it up.

Uwe:

   If you would like to try using Euphoria
   to do easy windows programming.

   You need to first install Euphoria on your computer.
   Download from here : http://www.rapideuphoria.com/25/e25setup.exe

   Then to instal an easy to use program to make windows programs.
   Download from here : http://www.rapideuphoria.com/euwingui.zip

   There are other libraries for windows programming but
   this will make it easy to make windows programs until
   you learn more advance Euphoria programming.

Bernie

My files in archive:
w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.exw

Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan

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12. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Uwe gruenewald wrote:
> 
> I see, that are good arguments and I must admit, the language by itself realy
> seams to be easy. So it´s a pitty to give it up.
> But the periphery is so comlicated to handle, that´s very frustrating, when
> there is no surface for comming in.
> Why euphoria is so hidden in this funtionality?
> Why is it possible to open Delpi with a click and you can set buttons and
> fields
> and there is a prepared place for scripting and why doesn`t the same work in
> Euphoria?
> For example, who want´s nowadays going back to the routs, to learn Dos again?
> Not everybody is grown up with that old way to use a computer.
> I don´t see, why it should be nessesary to spend time in learning an outmoded
> concept?
> I like it to use "clicky bunty" and i also have to present programs with
> handsome
> fields an buttons.
> Give me a surface like in delphi and a same easy way to get in and I surely
> could find many people to convince of Euphoria.
> Perhaps Euphoria isn`t that sophisticated and it´s better to wait, till it
> will
> be growing up out of the range of hackers?
> 
> Cheers,
> Uwe
> 

Let see... you're interested in RAD and looking for a good IDE, along with a
high-level Windows 32 development library for Euphoria... yes?

Well then we got just what you are looking for. They are called Win32Lib and
Judith Evan's Enhanced IDE. smile

Download them here:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/euvide/IDEwin32lib.zip
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/euvide/IDE0-19-3.zip


Regards,
Vincent

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13. Re: Please help me, who to start (Beginner)

Uwe gruenewald wrote:
> 
> I see, that are good arguments and I must admit, the language by itself realy
> seams to be easy. So it´s a pitty to give it up.
> But the periphery is so comlicated to handle, that´s very frustrating, when
> there is no surface for comming in.
> Why euphoria is so hidden in this funtionality?
> Why is it possible to open Delpi with a click and you can set buttons and
> fields
> and there is a prepared place for scripting and why doesn`t the same work in
> Euphoria?
> For example, who want´s nowadays going back to the routs, to learn Dos again?
> Not everybody is grown up with that old way to use a computer.
> I don´t see, why it should be nessesary to spend time in learning an outmoded
> concept?
> I like it to use "clicky bunty" and i also have to present programs with
> handsome
> fields an buttons.
> Give me a surface like in delphi and a same easy way to get in and I surely
> could find many people to convince of Euphoria.
> Perhaps Euphoria isn`t that sophisticated and it´s better to wait, till it
> will
> be growing up out of the range of hackers?
> 
 
aybe you want to walk before you can crawl.

For simple basics try: Beginers Guide:

http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=gay

To start writing buttons and fields right away try:

http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=ide

You can be wriring windows programs in one day.

Don Cole
 A Bug is an un-documented feature.
A Feature is a documented Bug.

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