1. List Server Ettiquette
Is there any particular rules to posting to this list server that I
should be aware of? I've just joined, and was wondering...
2. Re: List Server Ettiquette
- Posted by Everett Williams <rett at GVTC.COM>
Dec 10, 1999
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Last edited Dec 11, 1999
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:00:23 +0000, Pete Millan <robotnik at POSTMARK.NET>
wrote:
>Is there any particular rules to posting to this list server that I
>should be aware of? I've just joined, and was wondering...
Post early and often, and don't be shy. In between high-level
baloney sessions, I have never seen a newbie question go unanswered.
You even may find that you've gotten more help than you ever
wanted...better than the alternative.
Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at gvtc.com
3. Re: List Server Ettiquette
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at ATTCANADA.NET>
Dec 10, 1999
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Last edited Dec 11, 1999
Pete Millan writes:
> Is there any particular rules to posting to this list server
> that I should be aware of? I've just joined, and was wondering...
There aren't any strict rules, but I think everyone accepts
the following:
1. Try to stay on the topic of Euphoria programming
or closely-related issues.
2. Don't attach large files (larger than say 30K) to your messages,
and especially avoid posting .exe files.
I might also add the following:
3. Avoid quoting the entire, large message that you are
replying to. Just pick out the relevant bits to remind
us of what the other person said. After all, we have
probably just read the other persons message, and it's
still in our inbox.
4. If you find that you've posted 36 messages in the first
10 days of December, far more than anyone else,
it might be time to relax and do some Christmas
shopping or something. I won't mention any names,
but his initials are Everett L.(Rett) Williams
- whoops!
There's some more information at:
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com/listserv.htm
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
4. Re: List Server Ettiquette
- Posted by Jon Banquer <jbtech at MPINET.NET>
Dec 10, 1999
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Last edited Dec 11, 1999
> > Is there any particular rules to posting to this list server
> > that I should be aware of?
Don't ask RDS to give us an IDE.
Don't ask about the mysterious disappearance of Gary
Dumer / VEL / Damion, etc...
jon
5. Re: List Server Ettiquette
On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:48:24 -0500, Jon Banquer <jbtech at MPINET.NET> wrote:
>> > Is there any particular rules to posting to this list server
>> > that I should be aware of?
>
>Don't ask RDS to give us an IDE.
>
>Don't ask about the mysterious disappearance of Gary
>Dumer / VEL / Damion, etc...
>
>jon
Before I go do my Christmas shopping, I surely would like an answer to
that question. Mr. Dumer seemed to be one of the most devoted and
likeable of the contributors to this list...regardless of one's opinion,
positive or negative, of his code. The what seemed to be friendly
competition between his and David Cuny's respective IDE's appeared
to be causing both to mature rapidly. If there are copyright or patent
issues, the rest of us need to know that because we may have code
that is or will be dependent on that code. If RDS has pushed VEL and
Damien off the archive and him off the list, the rest of us are flat owed an
explanation. If Gary has requested that these actions be taken, then I
am most sorrowful, but I would like confirmation of that request. It is
hard to believe that someone would put that much effort into a really
beautiful piece of work and then just abandon it and disappear.
It is also unlikely that the work would disappear from the archive without
some specific reason. If I have in my possession a library that has legal
issues associated with it, and RDS has done nothing to inform me of
that problem while carefully protecting itself. Well, let's just say that I
might be a little piqued.
Anybody that has knowledge of these issues, please post them on the list
or to me privately.
Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at gvtc.com
6. Re: List Server Ettiquette
Robert Craig wrote:
> 4. If you find that you've posted 36 messages in the first
> 10 days of December, far more than anyone else,
> it might be time to relax and do some Christmas
> shopping or something. I won't mention any names,
> but his initials are Everett L.(Rett) Williams
> - whoops!
I see it but I don't believe it....humor! =)
I guess there really is a person behind all the answers to our silly
questions.
Regards,
Greg Phillips
7. Re: List Server Ettiquette
Everett Williams wrote:
> that is or will be dependent on that code. If RDS has pushed VEL and
> Damien off the archive and him off the list, the rest of us are flat owed an
> explanation.
RDS isn't Microsoft.
> If I have in my possession a library that has legal
> issues associated with it, and RDS has done nothing to inform me of
> that problem while carefully protecting itself. Well, let's just say that I
> might be a little piqued.
Sounds like someone's watching too much X-Files =)
No offense, Everett
Regards,
Greg
8. Re: List Server Ettiquette
> ... I surely would like an answer to that question.
So would I.
>If RDS has pushed VEL and Damien off the archive and him off the list, the
>rest of us are flat owed an explanation
I agree and think RDS should have made some sort of comment by now. To
say nothing at all is wrong.
What greatly disturbs me is that RDS seems to have no interest in building
an IDE for Euphoria. I can't think of a better way to enhance Euphoria's
use than RDS handling the base IDE.
Really not very happy about this whole situation. :(
jon
9. Re: List Server Ettiquette
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:20:09 -0800, Greg Phillips <i.shoot at REDNECKS.COM>
wrote:
>Everett Williams wrote:
>
>> that is or will be dependent on that code. If RDS has pushed VEL and
>> Damien off the archive and him off the list, the rest of us are flat owed an
>> explanation.
>
>RDS isn't Microsoft.
And I wouldn't suggest that, but, there must be a fairly good reason for
Gary's stuff to be off the archive when there are items on there with
cobwebs hanging off them whose authors haven't blipped on the list in
a long time.
>> If I have in my possession a library that has legal
>> issues associated with it, and RDS has done nothing to inform me of
>> that problem while carefully protecting itself. Well, let's just say that I
>> might be a little piqued.
>
>Sounds like someone's watching too much X-Files =)
>
>No offense, Everett
>
>Regards,
>Greg
My main point is that I'm really sorry to see such a capable individual
desert us. I have searched my mind for alternative thoughts as to this
set of events and have voiced the ones that I thought were possible.
Somebody took a positive action to remove VEL and Damien from the
archive. That is more than somebody just going inactive on the list. I
know that I personally have encouraged Gary both publicly and privately
to continue his efforts. The fact that he has gone completely silent AND
for some reason his stuff is off the archive is disturbing. I'd be happy with
a "we have been requested not to comment" from RDS.
Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at gvtc.com
10. Re: List Server Ettiquette
Hi Everett ,
> And I wouldn't suggest that, but, there must be a fairly good reason for
> Gary's stuff to be off the archive when there are items on there with
> cobwebs hanging off them whose authors haven't blipped on the list in
> a long time.
Oh.. we're still here.. lurking in the background.. :)
Greg Harris
Hollow Horse Software
