1. asm
- Posted by mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
Jun 30, 2001
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Hi (Most of the time I use lo . Lo is NOT the opposite of Hi , it means =
hello )
I just dont understand how assembly works . Why do the computer go into =
320*200*256 if you type in the following lines :
mov ax,0013h
int 10h
Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a =
bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when =
you put a value in a register ? WHY ?
Help !
Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever !)
Ferdinand Greyling(aka DukeFungus)
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<DIV>Hi (Most of the time I use lo . Lo is NOT the opposite of Hi , it =
means=20
hel<U>lo</U> )</DIV>
<DIV>I just dont understand how assembly works . Why do the computer go =
into=20
320*200*256 if you type in the following lines :</DIV>
<DIV>mov ax,0013h</DIV>
<DIV>int 10h</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a =
bunch=20
of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when you =
put a=20
value in a register ? WHY ?</DIV>
<DIV>Help !</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever !)</DIV>
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2. Re: asm
Well, all of the programs on a computer are based on a bunch of ints,
jmps, cmps, and all asm stuff.
Bios (int 10h) specified by default that function ah 00h sets the video
mode, and al is the the video mode that we're going to change.
Ax, is ah & al. So if you write ax = 0013h and the call int 10 (the
bios one) it's going to set a video mode to 13h (that is 320x200 with
256 colors if my memory doesn't fail).
I learned assembler by cracking programs. First it results a bit
complicated, but then you realize that it's the lowest way to manage
all kind of things that can happen in a PC.
It's hard to explain, but once you get the base you can know how all
your computer manages all that happens when you're doing something.
Best Regards,
Guillermo Bonvehí (Caballero Rojo)
--- mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA wrote:
>
>
> Hi (Most of the time I use lo . Lo is NOT the opposite of Hi , it
> means hello )
> I just dont understand how assembly works . Why do the computer go
> into 320*200*256 if you type in the following lines :
> mov ax,0013h
> int 10h
>
> Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a
> bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen
> when you put a value in a register ? WHY ?
> Help !
>
> Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever !)
> Ferdinand Greyling(aka DukeFungus)
>
>
>
3. Re: asm
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Stick to learning Euphoria first that should only take you
a few yrs. Asm is a life time.
(well, it is for me atleast.)
I had to write somethings in pure asm when I went to
school for electronics many-many moons ago and I
know that its not the easiest stuff to keep track of.
There is a great alternative to writing asm, grab a copy
of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed for windows
but incorporates alot of the same high level structure that
Euphoria provides. The one BIG thing missing from this is
sequences. I did manage flattened 2d sequences
with MASM32 via dll but its just not the same.
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
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To: EUforum
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 13:13
Subject: asm
hello )
I just dont understand how assembly works . Why do the computer go into
320*200*256 if you type in the following lines :
mov ax,0013h
int 10h
Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a bunch
of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when you put a
value in a register ? WHY ?
Help !
Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever !)
Ferdinand Greyling(aka DukeFungus)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Stick to learning Euphoria first that =
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take you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a few yrs. Asm is a life time. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(well, it is for me =
atleast.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had to write somethings in pure asm =
when I went=20
to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>school for electronics many-many moons =
ago and=20
I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>know that its not the easiest stuff to =
keep track=20
of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a great alternative to writing =
asm, grab a=20
copy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed =
for=20
windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but incorporates alot of the same high =
level=20
structure that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Euphoria provides. The one =
BIG thing=20
missing from this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sequences. I did manage =
flattened 2d=20
sequences</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with MASM32 via dll but its just not =
the=20
same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Euman<BR><A =
href=3D"mailto:euman at bellsouth.net">euman at bellsouth.net</A></DIV>
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go into=20
320*200*256 if you type in the following lines :</DIV>
<DIV>mov ax,0013h</DIV>
<DIV>int 10h</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just =
a bunch=20
of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when you =
put a=20
value in a register ? WHY ?</DIV>
<DIV>Help !</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever =
!)</DIV>
<DIV>Ferdinand Greyling(aka =
DukeFungus)</DIV><PRE>=3D=3D^=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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4. Re: asm
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From: Euman
Euman's advice is good. I would add only that with assembly
language, you can do anything that your hardware is capable
of doing - ferinstance, deformatting your hard drive, frying your monitor...
things like that. It pays to be absolutely sure you know what you're doing.
Stick to learning Euphoria first that should only take you
a few yrs. Asm is a life time.
(well, it is for me atleast.)
I had to write somethings in pure asm when I went to
school for electronics many-many moons ago and I
know that its not the easiest stuff to keep track of.
There is a great alternative to writing asm, grab a copy
of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed for windows
but incorporates alot of the same high level structure that
Euphoria provides. The one BIG thing missing from this is
sequences. I did manage flattened 2d sequences
with MASM32 via dll but its just not the same.
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a bunch of
movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when you put a value in
a register ? WHY ?
Help !
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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Euman's advice is good. I would add only
that with assembly </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>language, you can do anything that your
hardware is capable </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>of doing - ferinstance, deformatting
your hard drive, frying </FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>your monitor...
things like that. It pays to be absolutely</FONT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2> sure you know what you're doing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stick to learning Euphoria first that should only
take you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>a few yrs. Asm is a life time. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(well, it is for me atleast.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had to write somethings in pure asm when I went
to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>school for electronics many-many moons ago and
I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>know that its not the easiest stuff to keep track
of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is a great alternative to writing asm, grab
a copy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed for
windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but incorporates alot of the same high level
structure that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Euphoria provides. The one BIG thing
missing from this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sequences. I did manage flattened 2d
sequences</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with MASM32 via dll but its just not the
same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Euman<BR><A
href="mailto:euman at bellsouth.net">euman at bellsouth.net</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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DIV :< lines following the in type you if 320*200*256 into go>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a
bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when you
put a value in a register ? WHY ?</DIV>
<DIV>Help !</DIV>
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5. Re: asm
- Posted by mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
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6. Re: asm
- Posted by mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
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I dont want to lose a few years because i leart some noname lang . And , =
that stuff Guillermo said helped me , and now I understand how asm works =
!
Thanks anyway .
Ferdinand Greyling(DukeFungus)
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Euman=20
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Subject: Re: asm
>
know that its not the easiest stuff to keep track of.
=20
There is a great alternative to writing asm, grab a copy
of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed for windows
but incorporates alot of the same high level structure that
Euphoria provides. The one BIG thing missing from this is
sequences. I did manage flattened 2d sequences
with MASM32 via dll but its just not the same.
=20
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA=20
To: EUforum=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 13:13
Subject: asm
mov ax,0013h
int 10h
Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a =
bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when =
you put a value in a register ? WHY ?
Help !
Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever !)
Ferdinand Greyling(aka DukeFungus)
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<DIV>I dont want to lose a few years because i leart some noname lang . =
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!</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks anyway .</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ferdinand Greyling(DukeFungus)</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: asm</DIV>
<A =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(well, it is for me =
atleast.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had to write somethings in pure asm =
when I went=20
to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>school for electronics many-many =
moons ago and=20
I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>know that its not the easiest stuff =
to keep track=20
of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a great alternative to =
writing asm, grab=20
a copy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed =
for=20
windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but incorporates alot of the same =
high level=20
structure that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Euphoria provides. The one =
BIG thing=20
missing from this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sequences. I did manage =
flattened 2d=20
sequences</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with MASM32 via dll but its just not =
the=20
same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Euman<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:euman at bellsouth.net">euman at bellsouth.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV>mov ax,0013h</DIV>
<DIV>int 10h</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with =
just a=20
bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen =
when you=20
put a value in a register ? WHY ?</DIV>
<DIV>Help !</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Read ya later ! (Later days , Later , good luck ,whatever =
!)</DIV>
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7. Re: asm
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I can do that ! I need a new computer ....... (Mwhahahahaha)
Thanx
Ferdinand Greyling (DukeFungus)
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From: Euman=20
=20
Euman's advice is good. I would add only that with assembly=20
language, you can do anything that your hardware is capable=20
of doing - ferinstance, deformatting your hard drive, frying your =
monitor... things like that. It pays to be absolutely sure you know what =
you're doing.
=20
Stick to learning Euphoria first that should only take you
a few yrs. Asm is a life time.=20
(well, it is for me atleast.)
I had to write somethings in pure asm when I went to
school for electronics many-many moons ago and I
know that its not the easiest stuff to keep track of.
=20
There is a great alternative to writing asm, grab a copy
of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed for windows
but incorporates alot of the same high level structure that
Euphoria provides. The one BIG thing missing from this is
sequences. I did manage flattened 2d sequences
with MASM32 via dll but its just not the same.
=20
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
=20
Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just =
a bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen =
when you put a value in a register ? WHY ?
Help !
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<DIV>I can do that ! I need a new computer ....... (Mwhahahahaha)</DIV>
<DIV>Thanx</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Euman's advice is good. I =
would add=20
only that with assembly </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>language, you can do =
anything that your=20
hardware is capable </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>of doing -=20
ferinstance, deformatting your hard drive, frying </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>your monitor... things like that. It =
pays to be=20
absolutely</FONT><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2> sure you know =
what you're=20
doing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Stick to learning Euphoria first =
that should=20
only take you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a few yrs. Asm is a life time. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(well, it is for me =
atleast.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had to write somethings in pure =
asm when I=20
went to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>school for electronics many-many =
moons ago and=20
I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>know that its not the easiest stuff =
to keep=20
track of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a great alternative to =
writing asm,=20
grab a copy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is =
designed for=20
windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but incorporates alot of the same =
high level=20
structure that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Euphoria provides. The one =
BIG thing=20
missing from this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sequences. I did manage =
flattened 2d=20
sequences</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with MASM32 via dll but its just =
not the=20
same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Euman<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:euman at bellsouth.net">euman at bellsouth.net</A></DIV>
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when=20
you put a value in a register ? WHY ?</DIV>
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Best of Luck then.
BTW, when I have 100 programs written versus your 1 (one)
I hope its so good you make some pocket change from it.
Look at how the industry changes daily, MS introducing .NET
Sun releasing ever growing libraries for RAD Java, Borland with
Delphi, Builder (C++ and Java) it makes no since to waste time
with asm for an entire project. Sure some graphics handling
for Games might be nice to make .asm but these things take
years to construct and by that time, the industry will have changed
so much that Euphoria will be good enough to handle the graphics.
What I mean is, 1.8 ghz machines are already here. Imagine
what the machine power will be in the next two to three years.
Thank about it.
I just hope that Robert doesnt go anywhere when 64bit becomes
the norm. OfCourse Windows probably wont be affected by this
at first because only pointers will be 64bit according to MS
but it will mean that libraries like Win32lib will have to be changed
to work proper.
I got bit in the butt in 94 with a language I learned really well
then MS came out with Win95 and the company folded.
Lets hope XP doesnt do this to RDS. This is the only upside
I know to learning asm.
You seem to remind me of a pest that used to be around here
he called hisself MIKE THE SPIKE what a freakin asswipe.
Thought he was gods gift to languages (Mwhahahahaha)
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
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From: mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
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Subject: Re: asm
I can do that ! I need a new computer ....... (Mwhahahahaha)
Thanx
Ferdinand Greyling (DukeFungus)
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From: Irv Mullins
To: EUforum
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: asm
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From: Euman
Euman's advice is good. I would add only that with assembly
language, you can do anything that your hardware is capable
of doing - ferinstance, deformatting your hard drive, frying your
monitor... things like that. It pays to be absolutely sure you know what
you're doing.
Stick to learning Euphoria first that should only take you
a few yrs. Asm is a life time.
(well, it is for me atleast.)
I had to write somethings in pure asm when I went to
school for electronics many-many moons ago and I
know that its not the easiest stuff to keep track of.
There is a great alternative to writing asm, grab a copy
of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is designed for windows
but incorporates alot of the same high level structure that
Euphoria provides. The one BIG thing missing from this is
sequences. I did manage flattened 2d sequences
with MASM32 via dll but its just not the same.
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
Why ? Why does it happen ? How can you make a hole game with just a
bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen when you
put a value in a register ? WHY ?
Help !
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best of Luck then.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, when I have 100 programs written =
versus your 1=20
(one)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope its so good you make some pocket =
change from=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look at how the industry changes daily, =
MS=20
introducing .NET</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sun releasing ever growing libraries =
for RAD Java,=20
Borland with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Delphi, Builder (C++ and Java) it makes =
no since to=20
waste time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with asm for an entire project. Sure =
some graphics=20
handling</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for Games might be nice to make .asm =
but these=20
things take</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>years to construct and by that time, =
the industry=20
will have changed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so much that Euphoria will be good =
enough to handle=20
the graphics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What I mean is, 1.8 ghz machines are =
already here.=20
Imagine</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what the machine power will be in the =
next two to=20
three years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank about it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just hope that Robert doesnt go =
anywhere when=20
64bit becomes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the norm. OfCourse Windows probably =
wont be=20
affected by this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at first because only pointers will be =
64bit=20
according to MS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but it will mean that libraries like =
Win32lib will=20
have to be changed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to work proper.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got bit in the butt in 94 with a =
language I=20
learned really well</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then MS came out with Win95 and the =
company=20
folded.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lets hope XP doesnt do this to RDS. =
This is the=20
only upside</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know to learning asm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You seem to remind me of a pest that =
used to be=20
around here</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>he called hisself MIKE THE SPIKE what a =
freakin=20
asswipe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thought he was gods gift to languages =
<FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(Mwhahahahaha)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Euman<BR><A =
href=3D"mailto:euman at bellsouth.net">euman at bellsouth.net</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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title=3DEUforum at topica.com=20
href=3D"mailto:EUforum at topica.com">EUforum</A> </DIV>
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2000=20
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<DIV>Ferdinand Greyling (DukeFungus)</DIV>
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<A title=3Deuman at bellsouth.net =
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</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Euman's advice is good. I =
would add=20
only that with assembly </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>language, you can do =
anything that your=20
hardware is capable </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>of doing -=20
ferinstance, deformatting your hard drive, frying </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>your monitor... things like that. It =
pays to be=20
absolutely</FONT><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2> sure you know =
what you're=20
doing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Stick to learning Euphoria first =
that should=20
only take you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a few yrs. Asm is a life time. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(well, it is for me =
atleast.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had to write somethings in pure =
asm when I=20
went to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>school for electronics many-many =
moons ago and=20
I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>know that its not the easiest stuff =
to keep=20
track of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a great alternative to =
writing asm,=20
grab a copy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Hutch's MASM32. Masm32 is =
designed for=20
windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but incorporates alot of the same =
high level=20
structure that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Euphoria provides. The one =
BIG thing=20
missing from this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sequences. I did manage =
flattened 2d=20
sequences</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with MASM32 via dll but its just =
not the=20
same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Euman<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:euman at bellsouth.net">euman at bellsouth.net</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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just a=20
bunch of movs,ints,pops,pushs, ect ..... Why does the stuff happen =
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