1. cementing relations
Just a short note here about all of the discussion going on about what
direction to point Euphoria in, making an OS that sticks, changing the
name, etc.
If what you want to do is blaze new trails then how about attracting the
rest of the world to EU in a big way by doing just that: going where no one
has ever gone before:
1. The name is just fine as it is.
2. Why try to compete for already occupied space when there is lots of
untouched area out there?
3. Get away from trying to copy C, Basic, Java, Python, et al, ad nausium
ad infinitum --- this stuff goes on forever!
What I am trying to say here is that there is opportunity sitting outside
the door, begging for attention. Windows as the Great Monolithic is
starting to show plenty of cracks, and so is its partner in crime, Intel.
Wake up! For Example, take a look at what Toshiba and Sony are doing with
that new machine with its equally funny-sounding cpu 'Emotion Engine'. I
am talking about the Playstation2 which can operate at the rate of 6.2
gigaflops (that 6.2 Billion floating-points per second) bringing this box
into super computer status. This thing is a gamer's dream, needs a OS, and
currently does not have any programming language for it that normal people
can relate to. The company is spending a billion dollars just on
fabricating the chip. It has to eat up a lot more territory than just
being thumb-candy. I think there is plenty of opportunity here for all of
you who can see the advantages of being there first.
thanks norm
2. Re: cementing relations
> I am talking about the Playstation2 which can operate at the rate of 6.2
> gigaflops (that 6.2 Billion floating-points per second) bringing this box
> into super computer status.
Wow, I was happy when we built a Beowulf cluster, and got a hefty 800Mflops :P
--
Greg Phillips
i.shoot at rednecks.com
http://euphoria.server101.com
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My stomach hurts
3. Re: cementing relations
Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough with the first post...
I am not suggesting that Euphoria try to compete with the lower level
languages for building commercial games on the Playstation2. I am say that
there is a golden opportunity available right now for people who believe
that this gaming platform also looks like the next wave in home computing
power. It is NOT committed to the Windows system. It HAS NO operating
system yet. It contains the MOST powerful chip of its type ever created
for anything. It will sell over 40 million units just for the consoles,
just like its older sibling. What I am saying is that this is not about
adding to it as a gaming machine, but look at it with the intent that it
will possibly become a solidly established platform, capable of performing
all of the things that we know do with PC's.
I would like to know if there is anyone else out there who wants to help
investigate the possiblities of this becoming a Euphoria break-out, capable
of supplying a shell to build super-applications on, not just games.
Anyone out there interested? If you are, then go check out some of the
sites for this thing, such as www.absolute-playstation.com and there are
many others where people are just going crazy over this machine and its
potential.
Norm
4. Re: cementing relations
Hmmm... I see what you're saying now. But to be honest, I don't think =
things will unfold the way you're anticipating.
Remember the CD-i? Or, just last year, a console-like game chip that was =
suppose to be included in DVD players without cost, to try to slip in =
and conquer the console market like a Trojan horse (I think the name was =
M2)? Let's also not forget keyboards were made for the NES, the Saturn, =
and even the Atari 2600, although not many people know about it. I think =
the gaming industry's short history suggests that mixing console gaming =
with general-purpose computing is usually a poor mix.
Of course, I'm no industry expert; perhaps the PSX2 *will* be the first =
system to suceed as a "home entertainment computer". But if that's where =
it's headed... well, I hate to say it, but I think there would be other =
languages that would be a better choice. Something more network-based, =
extremely portable, supporting generic combos such as your console =
plugged to your DVD player, or your computer to your console joypad. I =
think Java or a derivative would be a better choice than Euphoria here, =
or maybe that OS Nintendo and Sun are working on (not that Sony would =
liscence it, but you get the idea.)
Rod Jackson
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From: Norm Goundry[SMTP:bonk1000 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:24 AM
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: cementing relations
Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough with the first post...
I am not suggesting that Euphoria try to compete with the lower level
languages for building commercial games on the Playstation2. I am say =
that
there is a golden opportunity available right now for people who believe
that this gaming platform also looks like the next wave in home =
computing
power. It is NOT committed to the Windows system. It HAS NO operating
system yet. It contains the MOST powerful chip of its type ever created
for anything. It will sell over 40 million units just for the consoles,
just like its older sibling. What I am saying is that this is not about
adding to it as a gaming machine, but look at it with the intent that it
will possibly become a solidly established platform, capable of =
performing
all of the things that we know do with PC's.
I would like to know if there is anyone else out there who wants to help
investigate the possiblities of this becoming a Euphoria break-out, =
capable
of supplying a shell to build super-applications on, not just games.
Anyone out there interested? If you are, then go check out some of the
sites for this thing, such as www.absolute-playstation.com and there are
many others where people are just going crazy over this machine and its
potential.
Norm
