1. offtopic: ASP
- Posted by =?iso-8859-2?B?qWtvZGE=?= <tone.skoda at SIOL.NET> Jun 05, 2000
- 624 views
- Last edited Jun 06, 2000
------=_NextPart_000_012D_01BFCF2B.F7205D60 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Active Server Pages. What is it all about? I have to learn to write asp pages for my work during holidays. Is it = hard and what is it about exactly? Where are some good sites I can learn = more about it? They say that on server side it must cover VBScript+HTML and on side of = client JavaScript+HTML. Why is that? What is OLEDB and ADO? Where *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about = it? I need to know also Access 97 , data base. I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web Server for Win 95", cause I am = using Win95. They said I can get it on MS, What is MS?? What is SW? How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost = everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0. Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other stuff? Thank you very much, every answer appreciated. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01BFCF2B.F7205D60 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-2" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3401" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Active Server Pages.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is it all about?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to learn to write asp pages for = my work=20 during holidays. Is it hard and what is it about exactly? Where are some = good=20 sites I can learn more about it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They say that on server side it = must cover=20 VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is=20 that?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is OLEDB and ADO? Where *GOOD* are = sites to=20 learn quick more about it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need to know also Access 97 , data=20 base.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need interpreter for ASP = "Personal Web=20 Server for Win 95", cause I am using Win95. They said I can get it = on MS,=20 What is MS??</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is SW?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost = everything,=20 as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0.</DIV> <DIV>Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other = stuff?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you very much, every answer=20 ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01BFCF2B.F7205D60--
2. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by John Coonrod <jc at THP.ORG> Jun 05, 2000
- 573 views
Groan. ASP is not the only way to go. You can use JSP - Java Server Pages - with the tomcat server, which you can download from jakarta.apache.org. MS is microsoft. Check out http://www.netpedia.com/coding/asp/ for more help. ===== Original Message from Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> at 6/05/00 2:23 pm >Active Server Pages. > >What is it all about? >I have to learn to write asp pages for my work during holidays. Is it hard and >what is it about exactly? Where are some good sites I can learn more about it? > >They say that on server side it must cover VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is that? > >What is OLEDB and ADO? Where *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about it? > >I need to know also Access 97 , data base. > >I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web Server for Win 95", cause I am using >Win95. They said I can get it on MS, What is MS?? > >What is SW? > >How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost everything, as I >have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0. >Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other stuff? > >Thank you very much, every answer appreciated.
3. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <xotron at BUFFNET.NET> Jun 05, 2000
- 566 views
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:23:52 +0200, =?iso-8859-2?B?qWtvZGE=?= <tone.skoda at SIOL.NET> wrote: >Active Server Pages. > >What is it all about? Go here for information: Search here for additional information at http://msdn.microsoft.com/default.asp >What is SW? SW could stand for software Bernie
4. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by "Lucius L. Hilley III" <lhilley at CDC.NET> Jun 05, 2000
- 596 views
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BFCF1C.6ADC0020 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I answered within your message in the color purple. Lucius L. Hilley III lhilley at cdc.net +----------+--------------+--------------+ | Hollow | ICQ: 9638898 | AIM: LLHIII | | Horse +--------------+--------------+ | Software | http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley | +----------+-----------------------------+ From: ©koda To: Euphoria Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: offtopic: ASP Active Server Pages. What is it all about? I have to learn to write asp pages for my work during holidays. Is it hard and what is it about exactly? Not really. Just a lot to learn all at once. Seeing how your programming experience is only C++ and VC++ you will have to learn VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, & the concept of Object handling. The last you may have already learned through VC++. Where are some good sites I can learn more about it? You already know the key words to look for. Use Yahoo, Go, Snap, Hotbot, Lycos, Excite.... Search for ASP, VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, DHTML.... Don't forget the keywords Quick Reference and/or Tutorial. You want the tutorial to learn and the Quick Reference as a easy reminder. Sometimes a Quick Reference can serve as a down and dirty Tutorial. They say that on server side it must cover VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is that? They? Yes, ASP is the use of VBScript and HTML on the server side and JavaScript and HTML on the Client side VBScript is also possible on the Client side but would only work for Internet Explorer browsers. What is OLEDB and ADO? OLEDB (Object Link ?E? Database) <- A Microsoft Windows thing, I assume it makes use of code that is in a computer when Microsoft Excel is installed. ADO <- Not sure, I just know it has something to do with VBScript. It is an object model that can be loaded and used. Where *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about it? AGAIN !!! Use those search engines. I need to know also Access 97 , data base. ADO? maybe that is (Access Database Object). You won't be able to learn about Access unless you have it. Even then, Use those search engines. Many times the searches will point towards Microsoft's Knowledge Database. That is a great place to start. You might find everything you need at Microsoft's site but I wouldn't bet on it. I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web Server for Win 95", cause I am using Win95. They said I can get it on MS, What is MS?? MS - Microsoft site. NT is a server OS and you would have a the interpreter built-in. Win95/98 don't have server capabilities right in. Win98 has limited server capabilities built-in. What is SW? SW - Software or possible Shareware. In your case I would be willing to bet they are referring to Software. Shareware is software but with restrictions imposed until the software is registered. How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0. Best angle is to attack this is to try and learn a little bit of all of them. HTML is the most important. Most of the HTML can be learned and faked using programs that build WebPages for you. Next you will want to glance over JavaScript. You don't exactly try to learn JavaScript right off, Just get the feel of JavaScript style of coding. Then move to VBScript. VBScript appears to be rather limited by itself but has the ability to link with other programming packages, ADO, OLEDB... and so forth. You will want to actually learn a good deal of VBScript. While learning VBScript try to get a feel of some of the things that you probably be working with, ADO, OLEDB, Access97. Anything that I have left out is probably linked to VBScript in someway. This is where you need to be learning those things. Study like it is a final exam. Cram, Cram, Cram. Pssst. Learn quick? I guess it can happen but I doubt it will. You will have to forget about most anything else in your life. Wife, kids, money, bills... You will have to think like a college kid. There is no tomorrow and I have to know it today. That is the only way you can learn that much really fast. Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other stuff? Great idea. You will have to find a hosting service that has an NT server. If they have an NT server then they support ASP. If they support ASP then they have and NT server. If they support FrontPage then they have and NT server. FrontPage is a program that can create websites using ASP. FrontPage cost money but FrontPage express is free and available on MS. The express version is a cut down version but could possibly greatly help you learn JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, HTML and many of the other things that you are asking about. Thank you very much, every answer appreciated. Good luck. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BFCF1C.6ADC0020 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-2" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3017.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I answered within your = message in the=20 color purple.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2> Lucius L. Hilley=20 III<BR> </FONT><A=20 href=3D"mailto:lhilley at cdc.net"><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2>lhilley at cdc.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2>+----------+--------------+--------------+<BR>| = Hollow | ICQ:=20 9638898 | AIM: LLHIII |<BR>| Horse =20 +--------------+--------------+<BR>| Software | </FONT><A=20 href=3D"http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley"><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2>http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Lucida = Console" size=3D2>=20 <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:tone.skoda at siol.net" = title=3Dtone.skoda at siol.net>=A9koda</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU"=20 title=3DEUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>Euphoria</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 05, 2000 = 2:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> offtopic: ASP</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Active Server Pages.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is it all about?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have to learn to write asp pages for my work = during=20 holidays.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Is it hard and what is it about=20 exactly?</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT = color=3D#000000> =20 </FONT><STRONG>Not really. Just a lot to learn all at = once. <FONT=20 color=3D#800080>Seeing how your programming experience is only C++ and = VC++ you=20 will have to learn VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, & the concept of = Object=20 handling. The last you may have already learned through=20 VC++.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Where are some good sites I can learn more about=20 it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> You = already know=20 the key words to look for. Use Yahoo, Go, Snap, Hotbot, Lycos,=20 Excite....</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>Search for ASP, VBScript, = JavaScript,=20 HTML, DHTML.... Don't forget the keywords Quick Reference and/or = Tutorial. You want the tutorial to learn and the Quick Reference = as a=20 easy reminder. Sometimes a Quick Reference can serve as a down = and dirty=20 Tutorial.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>They say that on server side it must cover=20 VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is=20 that?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> = They? Yes,=20 ASP is the use of VBScript and HTML on the server side and JavaScript = and HTML=20 on the Client side VBScript is also possible on the Client side but = would only=20 work for Internet Explorer browsers.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is OLEDB and ADO?</FONT><FONT color=3D#800080 = size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> OLEDB=20 (<U>O</U>bject <U>L</U>ink ?<U>E</U>? <U>D</U>atabase) <- A = Microsoft=20 Windows thing, I assume it makes use of code that is in a computer = when=20 Microsoft Excel is installed.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> ADO = <- Not=20 sure, I just know it has something to do with VBScript. It = is an=20 object model that can be loaded and used.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT=20 size=3D2></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D2>W</FONT>here=20 *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about it?</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> AGAIN = !!! Use those=20 search engines.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need to know also Access 97 , data = base.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> ADO? = maybe that is=20 (<U>A</U>ccess <U>D</U>atabase <U>O</U>bject). You won't be able = to=20 learn about Access unless you have it. Even then, Use those = search=20 engines. Many times the searches will point towards Microsoft's=20 Knowledge Database. That is a great place to start. You = might find=20 everything you need at Microsoft's site but I wouldn't bet on=20 it.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web=20 Server for Win 95", cause I am using Win95. They said I can get = it on MS,=20 What is MS??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG> MS - <U>M</U>icro<U>s</U>oft = <EM>site</EM>.=20 NT is a server OS and you would have a the interpreter built-in. = Win95/98 don't have server capabilities right in. <EM>Win98 has</EM>=20 <EM>limited server capabilities=20 built-in</EM>.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is SW?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG> SW - <U>S</U>oft<U>w</U>are or = possible=20 <U>S</U>hare<U>w</U>are. In your case I would be willing to bet = they are=20 referring to Software. Shareware is software but with = restrictions=20 imposed until the software is = registered.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to = learn=20 almost everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with=20 VC++5.0.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> Best = angle is to=20 attack this is to try and learn a little bit of all of = them. HTML=20 is the most important. Most of the HTML can be learned and = faked=20 using programs that build WebPages for you. Next you = will want=20 to glance over JavaScript. You don't exactly try to learn = JavaScript=20 right off, Just get the feel of JavaScript style of = coding. =20 Then move to VBScript. VBScript appears to be rather = limited by=20 itself but has the ability to link with other programming packages, = ADO,=20 OLEDB... and so forth. You will want to actually learn a = good deal=20 of VBScript. While learning VBScript try to get a feel of = some of=20 the things that you probably be working with, ADO, OLEDB, = Access97. =20 Anything that I have left out is probably linked to VBScript in = someway. =20 This is where you need to be learning those = things.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 = size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>Study like it is a final = exam. =20 Cram, Cram, Cram. Pssst. Learn quick? I guess it can = happen but I=20 doubt it will. You will have to forget about most anything else = in your=20 life. Wife, kids, money, bills... You will have to think like a = college=20 kid. There is no tomorrow and I have to know it today. = That is the=20 only way you can learn that much really = fast.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP = and other=20 stuff?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG> Great idea. You will have to find = a hosting=20 service that has an NT server. If they have an NT server then = they=20 support ASP. If they support ASP then they have and NT = server. If=20 they support FrontPage then they have and NT server. FrontPage = is a=20 program that can create websites using=20 ASP.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>FrontPage cost money but = FrontPage=20 express is free and available on MS. The express version is a = cut down=20 version but could possibly greatly help you learn JavaScript, = VBScript, ASP,=20 HTML and many of the other things that you are asking=20 about.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you very much, every answer = appreciated.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> Good=20 luck.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BFCF1C.6ADC0020--
5. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by Kat <gertie at PELL.NET> Jun 06, 2000
- 550 views
On 5 Jun 2000, at 18:32, Lucius L. Hilley III wrote: > I answered within your message in the color purple. I didn't see any purple. Kat
6. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by Michael Nelson <MichaelANelson at WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Jun 06, 2000
- 586 views
------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFCF8D.EBD35FE0 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have added a few comments. -- Mike Nelson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lucius L. Hilley III=20 To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU=20 Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: Re: offtopic: ASP I answered within your message in the color purple. Lucius L. Hilley III lhilley at cdc.net +----------+--------------+--------------+ | Hollow | ICQ: 9638898 | AIM: LLHIII | | Horse +--------------+--------------+ | Software | http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley | +----------+-----------------------------+ From: =A9koda=20 To: Euphoria=20 Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: offtopic: ASP Active Server Pages. What is it all about? I have to learn to write asp pages for my work during holidays. Is it hard and what is it about exactly? Not really. Just a lot to learn all at once. Seeing how your = programming experience is only C++ and VC++ you will have to learn = VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, & the concept of Object handling. The last = you may have already learned through VC++. =20 Where are some good sites I can learn more about it? You already know the key words to look for. Use Yahoo, Go, = Snap, Hotbot, Lycos, Excite.... Search for ASP, VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, DHTML.... Don't forget = the keywords Quick Reference and/or Tutorial. You want the tutorial to = learn and the Quick Reference as a easy reminder. Sometimes a Quick = Reference can serve as a down and dirty Tutorial. They say that on server side it must cover VBScript+HTML and on side = of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is that? They? Yes, ASP is the use of VBScript and HTML on the server = side and JavaScript and HTML on the Client side VBScript is also = possible on the Client side but would only work for Internet Explorer = browsers. What is OLEDB and ADO? OLEDB (Object Link ?E? Database) <- A Microsoft Windows thing, I = assume it makes use of code that is in a computer when Microsoft Excel = is installed. >>The OLE refers to Object Linking and Embedding ADO <- Not sure, I just know it has something to do with = VBScript. It is an object model that can be loaded and used. >>ADO is Microsoft's latest means of accessing databases based on = ActiveX Controls(stands >>for ActiveX Database Objects) Controls. Where *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about it? AGAIN !!! Use those search engines. I need to know also Access 97 , data base. ADO? maybe that is (Access Database Object). You won't be able = to learn about Access unless you have it. Even then, Use those search = engines. Many times the searches will point towards Microsoft's = Knowledge Database. That is a great place to start. You might find = everything you need at Microsoft's site but I wouldn't bet on it. I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web Server for Win 95", cause I = am using Win95. They said I can get it on MS, What is MS?? MS - Microsoft site. NT is a server OS and you would have a the = interpreter built-in. Win95/98 don't have server capabilities right in. = Win98 has limited server capabilities built-in. What is SW? SW - Software or possible Shareware. In your case I would be = willing to bet they are referring to Software. Shareware is software = but with restrictions imposed until the software is registered. How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost = everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0. Best angle is to attack this is to try and learn a little bit of = all of them. HTML is the most important. Most of the HTML can be = learned and faked using programs that build WebPages for you. Next you = will want to glance over JavaScript. You don't exactly try to learn = JavaScript right off, Just get the feel of JavaScript style of coding. = Then move to VBScript. VBScript appears to be rather limited by itself = but has the ability to link with other programming packages, ADO, = OLEDB... and so forth. You will want to actually learn a good deal of = VBScript. While learning VBScript try to get a feel of some of the = things that you probably be working with, ADO, OLEDB, Access97. = Anything that I have left out is probably linked to VBScript in someway. = This is where you need to be learning those things. =20 Study like it is a final exam. Cram, Cram, Cram. Pssst. Learn = quick? I guess it can happen but I doubt it will. You will have to = forget about most anything else in your life. Wife, kids, money, = bills... You will have to think like a college kid. There is no = tomorrow and I have to know it today. That is the only way you can = learn that much really fast. Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other stuff? Great idea. You will have to find a hosting service that has an = NT server. If they have an NT server then they support ASP. If they = support ASP then they have and NT server. If they support FrontPage = then they have and NT server. FrontPage is a program that can create = websites using ASP. FrontPage cost money but FrontPage express is free and available on = MS. The express version is a cut down version but could possibly = greatly help you learn JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, HTML and many of the = other things that you are asking about. Thank you very much, every answer appreciated. Good luck. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFCF8D.EBD35FE0 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-2" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have added a few comments.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-- Mike Nelson</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:lhilley at CDC.NET" title=3Dlhilley at CDC.NET>Lucius L. = Hilley=20 III</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU"=20 title=3DEUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 05, 2000 = 3:32 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: offtopic: = ASP</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I answered within your = message in the=20 color purple.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2> Lucius L. Hilley=20 III<BR> </FONT><A=20 href=3D"mailto:lhilley at cdc.net"><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2>lhilley at cdc.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2>+----------+--------------+--------------+<BR>| = Hollow |=20 ICQ: 9638898 | AIM: LLHIII |<BR>| Horse =20 +--------------+--------------+<BR>| Software | </FONT><A=20 href=3D"http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley"><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console"=20 size=3D2>http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley</FONT></A><FONT face=3D"Lucida = Console"=20 size=3D2> |<BR>+----------+-----------------------------+</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:tone.skoda at siol.net" = title=3Dtone.skoda at siol.net>=A9koda</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU"=20 title=3DEUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>Euphoria</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 05, 2000 = 2:23=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> offtopic: ASP</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Active Server Pages.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is it all about?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have to learn to write asp pages for my work = during=20 holidays.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Is it hard and what is it about=20 exactly?</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT = color=3D#000000> =20 </FONT><STRONG>Not really. Just a lot to learn all at = once. =20 <FONT color=3D#800080>Seeing how your programming experience is only = C++ and=20 VC++ you will have to learn VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, & the = concept of=20 Object handling. The last you may have already learned through = VC++.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Where are some good sites I can learn more about = it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> You = already know=20 the key words to look for. Use Yahoo, Go, Snap, Hotbot, Lycos, = Excite....</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>Search for ASP, = VBScript,=20 JavaScript, HTML, DHTML.... Don't forget the keywords Quick = Reference=20 and/or Tutorial. You want the tutorial to learn and the Quick=20 Reference as a easy reminder. Sometimes a Quick Reference can = serve as=20 a down and dirty Tutorial.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>They say that on server side it must cover=20 VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is=20 that?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> = They? Yes,=20 ASP is the use of VBScript and HTML on the server side and = JavaScript and=20 HTML on the Client side VBScript is also possible on the Client side = but=20 would only work for Internet Explorer = browsers.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is OLEDB and ADO?</FONT><FONT = color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> OLEDB = (<U>O</U>bject <U>L</U>ink ?<U>E</U>? <U>D</U>atabase) <- A=20 Microsoft Windows thing, I assume it makes use of code that is in a = computer=20 when Microsoft Excel is installed.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>>>The OLE refers = to Object=20 Linking and Embedding</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> ADO = <- Not=20 sure, I just know it has something to do with VBScript. = It is an=20 object model that can be loaded and used.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>>>ADO is = Microsoft's latest=20 means of accessing databases based on ActiveX Controls(stands = >>for=20 ActiveX Database Objects) Controls.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT=20 size=3D2>W</FONT>here *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about=20 it?</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> AGAIN = !!! Use=20 those search engines.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need to know also Access 97 , data = base.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> ADO? = maybe that=20 is (<U>A</U>ccess <U>D</U>atabase <U>O</U>bject). You won't be = able to=20 learn about Access unless you have it. Even then, Use those = search=20 engines. Many times the searches will point towards = Microsoft's=20 Knowledge Database. That is a great place to start. You = might=20 find everything you need at Microsoft's site but I wouldn't bet on=20 it.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web=20 Server for Win 95", cause I am using Win95. They said I can get = it on=20 MS, What is MS??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG> MS - <U>M</U>icro<U>s</U>oft=20 <EM>site</EM>. NT is a server OS and you would have a the = interpreter=20 built-in. Win95/98 don't have server capabilities right in. = <EM>Win98=20 has</EM> <EM>limited server capabilities=20 built-in</EM>.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is SW?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG> SW - <U>S</U>oft<U>w</U>are or = possible=20 <U>S</U>hare<U>w</U>are. In your case I would be willing to = bet they=20 are referring to Software. Shareware is software but with = restrictions=20 imposed until the software is=20 registered.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need = to learn=20 almost everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with=20 VC++5.0.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> Best = angle is to=20 attack this is to try and learn a little bit of all of = them. HTML=20 is the most important. Most of the HTML can be learned = and faked=20 using programs that build WebPages for you. Next you = will=20 want to glance over JavaScript. You don't exactly try to learn = JavaScript right off, Just get the feel of JavaScript = style of=20 coding. Then move to VBScript. VBScript appears to = be=20 rather limited by itself but has the ability to link with other = programming=20 packages, ADO, OLEDB... and so forth. You will want to = actually=20 learn a good deal of VBScript. While learning = VBScript try to get=20 a feel of some of the things that you probably be working with, ADO, = OLEDB,=20 Access97. Anything that I have left out is probably linked to = VBScript=20 in someway. This is where you need to be learning those=20 things.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 = size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>Study like it is a final = exam. =20 Cram, Cram, Cram. Pssst. Learn quick? I guess it can = happen but=20 I doubt it will. You will have to forget about most anything = else in=20 your life. Wife, kids, money, bills... You will have to think = like a=20 college kid. There is no tomorrow and I have to know it = today. =20 That is the only way you can learn that much really=20 fast.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Shall I write my own Home page that uses = ASP and=20 other stuff?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20 size=3D2><STRONG> Great idea. You will have to = find a=20 hosting service that has an NT server. If they have an NT = server then=20 they support ASP. If they support ASP then they have and NT=20 server. If they support FrontPage then they have and NT = server. =20 FrontPage is a program that can create websites using=20 ASP.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>FrontPage cost money but = FrontPage=20 express is free and available on MS. The express version is a = cut down=20 version but could possibly greatly help you learn JavaScript, = VBScript, ASP,=20 HTML and many of the other things that you are asking=20 about.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you very much, every answer=20 appreciated.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> Good=20 luck.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFCF8D.EBD35FE0--
7. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by "Lucius L. Hilley III" <lhilley at CDC.NET> Jun 06, 2000
- 559 views
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kat" <gertie at pell.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:56 AM > On 5 Jun 2000, at 18:32, Lucius L. Hilley III wrote: > > > I answered within your message in the color purple. > > I didn't see any purple. > That is because you don't have HTML view or turned on or your Euphoria listserv setup prevents you from receiving the HTML encoding. In any case I made that statement directly to the person that posted the message. I knew that he would see the purple as well as many others. Viewing emails in HTML format is an option that you probably choose not to do. PS: my responses also start off indented and come directly after each of his questions. Even without the purple in SOME peoples cases it should still be plainly readable. Lucius L. Hilley III lhilley at cdc.net +--------------+--------------+ | ICQ: 9638898 | AIM: LLHIII | +--------------+--------------+ | http://www.cdc.net/~lhilley | +-----------------------------+
8. Re: offtopic: ASP
- Posted by "Gerardo E. Brandariz" <gebrandariz at YAHOO.COM> Jun 09, 2000
- 581 views
------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BFD1BB.2A6F73E0 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MS usually stand for 'MicroSoft', but ... where do you find it? In what = context? It might also mean 'ManuScript'. SW might mean 'SouthWest', 'SoftWare', 'ShareWare', or even 'Southern = Winds', an airline here in Argentina. A good place to search for acronyms is The Penn State University = Libraries Reference = Best of luck! Gerardo E. Brandariz ----- Original Message -----=20 From: =A9koda=20 To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU=20 Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:23 PM Subject: offtopic: ASP Active Server Pages. What is it all about? I have to learn to write asp pages for my work during holidays. Is it = hard and what is it about exactly? Where are some good sites I can learn = more about it? They say that on server side it must cover VBScript+HTML and on side = of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is that? What is OLEDB and ADO? Where *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more = about it? I need to know also Access 97 , data base. I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web Server for Win 95", cause I = am using Win95. They said I can get it on MS, What is MS?? What is SW? How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost = everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0. Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other stuff? Thank you very much, every answer appreciated. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BFD1BB.2A6F73E0 charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-2" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>MS usually stand for 'MicroSoft', but ... where do = you find=20 it? In what context? It might also mean 'ManuScript'.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>SW might mean 'SouthWest', 'SoftWare', 'ShareWare', = or even=20 'Southern Winds', an airline here in Argentina.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>A good place to search for acronyms is The Penn = State=20 University Libraries Reference (<A=20 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Best of luck!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gerardo E. Brandariz</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:tone.skoda at SIOL.NET" = title=3Dtone.skoda at SIOL.NET>=A9koda</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU"=20 title=3DEUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 05, 2000 = 3:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> offtopic: ASP</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Active Server Pages.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is it all about?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to learn to write asp pages = for my work=20 during holidays. Is it hard and what is it about exactly? Where are = some good=20 sites I can learn more about it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They say that on server side it = must cover=20 VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is=20 that?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is OLEDB and ADO? Where *GOOD* = are sites to=20 learn quick more about it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need to know also Access 97 , data=20 base.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need interpreter for ASP = "Personal Web=20 Server for Win 95", cause I am using Win95. They said I can get = it on MS,=20 What is MS??</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is SW?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost=20 everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0.</DIV> <DIV>Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other = stuff?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you very much, every answer=20 = HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BFD1BB.2A6F73E0-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com