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From: ©koda
To: Euphoria
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: offtopic: ASP
Active Server Pages.
What is it all about?
I have to learn to write asp pages for my work during holidays.
Is it hard and what is it about exactly?
Not really. Just a lot to learn all at once. Seeing how your
programming experience is only C++ and VC++ you will have to learn VBScript,
JavaScript, HTML, & the concept of Object handling. The last you may have
already learned through VC++.
Where are some good sites I can learn more about it?
You already know the key words to look for. Use Yahoo, Go, Snap,
Hotbot, Lycos, Excite....
Search for ASP, VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, DHTML.... Don't forget the
keywords Quick Reference and/or Tutorial. You want the tutorial to learn
and the Quick Reference as a easy reminder. Sometimes a Quick Reference can
serve as a down and dirty Tutorial.
They say that on server side it must cover VBScript+HTML and on side of
client JavaScript+HTML. Why is that?
They? Yes, ASP is the use of VBScript and HTML on the server side and
JavaScript and HTML on the Client side VBScript is also possible on the
Client side but would only work for Internet Explorer browsers.
What is OLEDB and ADO?
OLEDB (Object Link ?E? Database) <- A Microsoft Windows thing, I
assume it makes use of code that is in a computer when Microsoft Excel is
installed.
ADO <- Not sure, I just know it has something to do with VBScript.
It is an object model that can be loaded and used.
Where *GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about it?
AGAIN !!! Use those search engines.
I need to know also Access 97 , data base.
ADO? maybe that is (Access Database Object). You won't be able to
learn about Access unless you have it. Even then, Use those search engines.
Many times the searches will point towards Microsoft's Knowledge Database.
That is a great place to start. You might find everything you need at
Microsoft's site but I wouldn't bet on it.
I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web Server for Win 95", cause I am
using Win95. They said I can get it on MS, What is MS??
MS - Microsoft site. NT is a server OS and you would have a the
interpreter built-in. Win95/98 don't have server capabilities right in.
Win98 has limited server capabilities built-in.
What is SW?
SW - Software or possible Shareware. In your case I would be willing
to bet they are referring to Software. Shareware is software but with
restrictions imposed until the software is registered.
How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to learn almost everything,
as I have only programmed in C++ with VC++5.0.
Best angle is to attack this is to try and learn a little bit of all
of them. HTML is the most important. Most of the HTML can be learned and
faked using programs that build WebPages for you. Next you will want to
glance over JavaScript. You don't exactly try to learn JavaScript right
off, Just get the feel of JavaScript style of coding. Then move to
VBScript. VBScript appears to be rather limited by itself but has the
ability to link with other programming packages, ADO, OLEDB... and so forth.
You will want to actually learn a good deal of VBScript. While learning
VBScript try to get a feel of some of the things that you probably be
working with, ADO, OLEDB, Access97. Anything that I have left out is
probably linked to VBScript in someway. This is where you need to be
learning those things.
Study like it is a final exam. Cram, Cram, Cram. Pssst. Learn quick? I
guess it can happen but I doubt it will. You will have to forget about most
anything else in your life. Wife, kids, money, bills... You will have to
think like a college kid. There is no tomorrow and I have to know it today.
That is the only way you can learn that much really fast.
Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP and other stuff?
Great idea. You will have to find a hosting service that has an NT
server. If they have an NT server then they support ASP. If they support
ASP then they have and NT server. If they support FrontPage then they have
and NT server. FrontPage is a program that can create websites using ASP.
FrontPage cost money but FrontPage express is free and available on MS.
The express version is a cut down version but could possibly greatly help
you learn JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, HTML and many of the other things that
you are asking about.
Thank you very much, every answer appreciated.
Good luck.
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> offtopic: ASP</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Active Server Pages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is it all about?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have to learn to write asp pages for my work =
during=20
holidays.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Is it hard and what is it about=20
exactly?</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#000000> =20
</FONT><STRONG>Not really. Just a lot to learn all at =
once. <FONT=20
color=3D#800080>Seeing how your programming experience is only C++ and =
VC++ you=20
will have to learn VBScript, JavaScript, HTML, & the concept of =
Object=20
handling. The last you may have already learned through=20
VC++.</FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Where are some good sites I can learn more about=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> You =
already know=20
the key words to look for. Use Yahoo, Go, Snap, Hotbot, Lycos,=20
Excite....</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>Search for ASP, VBScript, =
JavaScript,=20
HTML, DHTML.... Don't forget the keywords Quick Reference and/or =
Tutorial. You want the tutorial to learn and the Quick Reference =
as a=20
easy reminder. Sometimes a Quick Reference can serve as a down =
and dirty=20
Tutorial.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>They say that on server side it must cover=20
VBScript+HTML and on side of client JavaScript+HTML. Why is=20
that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> =
They? Yes,=20
ASP is the use of VBScript and HTML on the server side and JavaScript =
and HTML=20
on the Client side VBScript is also possible on the Client side but =
would only=20
work for Internet Explorer browsers.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is OLEDB and ADO?</FONT><FONT color=3D#800080 =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> OLEDB=20
(<U>O</U>bject <U>L</U>ink ?<U>E</U>? <U>D</U>atabase) <- A =
Microsoft=20
Windows thing, I assume it makes use of code that is in a computer =
when=20
Microsoft Excel is installed.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> ADO =
<- Not=20
sure, I just know it has something to do with VBScript. It =
is an=20
object model that can be loaded and used.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT =
size=3D2>W</FONT>here=20
*GOOD* are sites to learn quick more about it?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> AGAIN =
!!! Use those=20
search engines.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need to know also Access 97 , data =
base.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> ADO? =
maybe that is=20
(<U>A</U>ccess <U>D</U>atabase <U>O</U>bject). You won't be able =
to=20
learn about Access unless you have it. Even then, Use those =
search=20
engines. Many times the searches will point towards Microsoft's=20
Knowledge Database. That is a great place to start. You =
might find=20
everything you need at Microsoft's site but I wouldn't bet on=20
it.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I need interpreter for ASP "Personal Web=20
Server for Win 95", cause I am using Win95. They said I can get =
it on MS,=20
What is MS??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20
size=3D2><STRONG> MS - <U>M</U>icro<U>s</U>oft =
<EM>site</EM>.=20
NT is a server OS and you would have a the interpreter built-in. =
Win95/98 don't have server capabilities right in. <EM>Win98 has</EM>=20
<EM>limited server capabilities=20
built-in</EM>.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What is SW?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20
size=3D2><STRONG> SW - <U>S</U>oft<U>w</U>are or =
possible=20
<U>S</U>hare<U>w</U>are. In your case I would be willing to bet =
they are=20
referring to Software. Shareware is software but with =
restrictions=20
imposed until the software is =
registered.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>How can I quick learn about this stuff, I need to =
learn=20
almost everything, as I have only programmed in C++ with=20
VC++5.0.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> Best =
angle is to=20
attack this is to try and learn a little bit of all of =
them. HTML=20
is the most important. Most of the HTML can be learned and =
faked=20
using programs that build WebPages for you. Next you =
will want=20
to glance over JavaScript. You don't exactly try to learn =
JavaScript=20
right off, Just get the feel of JavaScript style of =
coding. =20
Then move to VBScript. VBScript appears to be rather =
limited by=20
itself but has the ability to link with other programming packages, =
ADO,=20
OLEDB... and so forth. You will want to actually learn a =
good deal=20
of VBScript. While learning VBScript try to get a feel of =
some of=20
the things that you probably be working with, ADO, OLEDB, =
Access97. =20
Anything that I have left out is probably linked to VBScript in =
someway. =20
This is where you need to be learning those =
things.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>Study like it is a final =
exam. =20
Cram, Cram, Cram. Pssst. Learn quick? I guess it can =
happen but I=20
doubt it will. You will have to forget about most anything else =
in your=20
life. Wife, kids, money, bills... You will have to think like a =
college=20
kid. There is no tomorrow and I have to know it today. =
That is the=20
only way you can learn that much really =
fast.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Shall I write my own Home page that uses ASP =
and other=20
stuff?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#800080=20
size=3D2><STRONG> Great idea. You will have to find =
a hosting=20
service that has an NT server. If they have an NT server then =
they=20
support ASP. If they support ASP then they have and NT =
server. If=20
they support FrontPage then they have and NT server. FrontPage =
is a=20
program that can create websites using=20
ASP.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG>FrontPage cost money but =
FrontPage=20
express is free and available on MS. The express version is a =
cut down=20
version but could possibly greatly help you learn JavaScript, =
VBScript, ASP,=20
HTML and many of the other things that you are asking=20
about.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you very much, every answer =
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D2><STRONG> Good=20
luck.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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