1. What Is Language Best For Newbie
- Posted by Sperry Russ <slruss at STRATO.NET>
Dec 16, 2000
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Last edited Dec 17, 2000
Hi,
The below message is a message that I posted to the newsgroup
comp.lang.basic.misc
I was surprised how many people answered it to tell which basic language
they thought was good for a newbie. Especially Liberty Basic answers. A
lady named Sandra Reed also answered my post but told me about this
language (euphoria). So now I have been investigating euphoria. I have
downloaded it and have been looking at the documentation and the program.
I would appreciate any input from any of you all. (Y'all) :)
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I know very little about any type of programming. I have been reading about
programming languages off and on for several months and downloading some
programming languages....Java, Javascript, Ruby, Dialect, Perl, Tcl, Delphi,
Visual Basic, C, C++, BASIC, QBASIC, Liberty Basic, RapidQ, XBasic, Real
Basic, and others I can't even remember now.
I just have a interest in starting somewhere just not sure where. Not
professionally, just for a hobby and my own use. What is the main
difference between these languages? How similar are the they? Which one is
best for a newbie? I realize this might be a hard question but which one is
the best for a beginner but could be used for more complicated things later,
and why?
Thank You,
Sperry Russ
2. Re: What Is Language Best For Newbie
- Posted by Rolf Schroeder <r.schr at T-ONLINE.DE>
Dec 17, 2000
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Last edited Dec 18, 2000
George Henry wrote:
>
> >http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/index.html
>
> >However, the examples for EUPHORIA are partly wrong.
>
Hello Henry, I should have been more precise: if one chooses Euphoria
and then under the title: 'Areas of Application' there is a text:
'EUPHORIA Picture Gallery' which is liked with:
This link has nothing to do with our well known Euphoria!
In so far this is a wrong example.
Have a nice day, Rolf
3. Re: What Is Language Best For Newbie
Dan Moyer writes:
> ... a GUI creator called "Euphoria", *not* this Euphoria,
> which was apparently made in about 1997.
> Manual for it was prepared by T. Paul McCartney
> (paul at cs.wustl.edu) Washington University
> Department of Computer Science. Wonder if Robert
> knows about this?
Yes, I'm well aware of this other "Euphoria".
He chose that name a couple of years after I used it.
(He seems to like borrowing other people's names 
).
> "Euphoria" as a name for a programming
> language is copyrighted, isn't it?
I've never said it was copyrighted.
Not many language names are. Although,
if someone tries to make a Euphoria clone,
I'd prefer that they pick a slightly different name
to distinguish their work from the "true" Euphoria.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
4. Re: What Is Language Best For Newbie
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:47:22 -0500, Robert Craig <rds at RAPIDEUPHORIA.COM>
wrote:
>Yes, I'm well aware of this other "Euphoria".
>He chose that name a couple of years after I used it.
>(He seems to like borrowing other people's names ).
>
>> "Euphoria" as a name for a programming
>> language is copyrighted, isn't it?
>
>I've never said it was copyrighted.
>Not many language names are. Although,
>if someone tries to make a Euphoria clone,
>I'd prefer that they pick a slightly different name
>to distinguish their work from the "true" Euphoria.
It may not be copyrighted but I would think that
you would own it as your trade mark.
5. Re: What Is Language Best For Newbie
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:16:09 -0000, George Henry <ghenryca at HOTMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>
>>However, the examples for EUPHORIA are partly wrong.
>
>Specifically, all you need to get Euphoria to say hello is:
>
>puts(1, "Hello World!\n")
>
>without the while loop.
take a look at the other examples...they all have the equivelent of a
Euphoria 'while' loop.
- Matt
6. Re: What Is Language Best For Newbie
>take a look at the other examples...they all have the equivelent of a
Euphoria 'while' loop.
> - Matt
Fair enough perhaps, but then why did the Web page creators present that
example / those examples as 'the "Hello World!" program', rather than as
'some meaningless hybrid of "Hello World!" and a generic while loop'? I
wrote to the Webmaster, who explained / made the excuse that some of his
students put the whole thing together.
Maybe it would be better to look at references that were developed by people
with more advanced credentials; or at least, to be aware of the source of
what you're looking at.
George
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7. Re: What Is Language Best For Newbie
>However, the examples for EUPHORIA are partly wrong.
Specifically, all you need to get Euphoria to say hello is:
puts(1, "Hello World!\n")
without the while loop.
I have written email messages to the webmaster, and the webmaster of the
site from which the error was copied, suggesting they correct this. It took
me about two minutes, three if you count this message also....
Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
George
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