Re: Flaming and IRC
Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
>
> Michael J. Sabal wrote:
> >
> > I tend to avoid IRC for the same reason I avoid a lot of places on the 'net.
> >
> > If anyone in this community has an issue with code I've submitted for public
> > use, I would appreciate such issues be posted here on this list or on the
> > appropriate SourceForge tracker. I especially do not appreciate hearing
> > about
> > vague complaints by rumor of side-channel discussions. I'm not going to
> > agree
> > with everything the community decides, nor is the community always going to
> > agree with me; but unless comments are directed constructively in the
> > correct
> > forum, the only result will be someone getting offended, which is most
> > certainly
> > counterproductive.
>
> Mike,
>
> I am trying to very actively promote IRC for the great benefits it has
> allowing
> developers to talk with each other. I was CC'd on the email you are responding
> to and I replied to your email and the one reporting the issue telling you
> about
> the situation. I do not wish to discuss it here in public, but there was NO
> flaming anywhere.
The flaming was done against eubot, the same sort of flames which stopped me
from releasing strtok v3 8 years ago and caused me to delete all code for the
last best release of eubot years ago. The same put-offs that got me to stop
writing Eu code at all for several years. The same code that allowed eubot to
make and keep simultaneous tcp connections and data coherent, consistent, and
available at any time, was to be lifted out and placed (with appropriate changes
allowing for protocol) into eunet. Until i was informed it was too much overhead,
and an ugly hack to make windows do *nix stuff. And it had been deleted from
eubot by the flamer, who went on to say his version didn't work as i advertised.
> A lot of peoples problems have been solved in #euphoria now and it's a good
> tool.
I agree.
> On #euphoria nothing has been said bad about EuNet. Discussions of problems
> and possible solutions were discussed as there was an active developer on
> #euphoria
> talking about it.
Not about eunet as it was currently released, as far as i know. Only what i was
doing right then to allow multiple connections. There were no solutions suggested
by the flamer. What i was at the keyboard doing for eunet right then was being
put down. The code didn't make it into a release of eunet by me, i deleted it as
undesireable, ugly, a hack. So Michael Sabal's version of eunet is still "clean"
as the flamer wants it. I have never been considered an "active developer" of
anything in the "eu community", merely a occasional contributor and full time
troublemaker (see: goto).
> I still have the conversation in my IRC client that I can scroll back and
> email
> you the entire conversation. I will do that now. Please read it.
>
> --
> Jeremy Cowgar
> <a href="http://jeremy.cowgar.com">http://jeremy.cowgar.com</a>
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