Re: Is Euphoria In It's Final Form?
Listen, free speech is what I'm excersising. I don't by any means obey
American law. Your laws are foolish.
- Nate
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> From: Hawke <mdeland at NWINFO.NET>
> To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject: Re: Is Euphoria In It's Final Form?
> Date: September 10, 1998 8:14 PM
>
> Nate Brooman wrote:
> > P.S. Here are some quotes some of my friends made:
> >"To live in and praise the United States of America, is a crime against
> >world peace. Their English is called American. More people speak the
proper
> >(UK) dialect of English than American." - Scott Maxted
> > "Don't stand to the Star Spangled Banner, for it is evil and is for
> > gun-happy people"
> > - Kyle Labelle
> > "Fuck you America. I'll burn your fucking flag until you guys cede
> > yourselves to Britain." - Andy Brainard
> > "America will pay the concequences for being naive and bigheaded"
> > - Dieter Hemmlen
> These quotes have *NO* business in this list.
> Period.
>
> We've had the tagline discussion before, whereby some were offended
> by anothers' tagline statements/sentiments, and my understanding
> of that issue was taglines are considered a part of the person.
> To wit:a sig or tagline that was congruent and contiguous, repeatedly
> amended to one's post, was a form of expressive freedom, provided
> they are kept short, and didn't verbally abuse.
>
> This is different. You aren't pledging or proffering these
> quotes as a tidy attachment to your persona. It isn't short, and
> by the laws in my country (as well as most of the countries that
> are represented in this forum) your post is a de facto case of
> verbal abuse. Your parents are your legal guardians, and as
> such, they are responsible for your actions. If anyone was
> to bring charges against you for this verbal abuse (the f' word)
> they would be the ones arrested, charged and made to stand trial.
> Do you want that?
>
> In short:I don't give a flying rip how old you are. You are either
> mature or you aren't. The sincerity of an apology, and the
> actions after that apology are (part of) what dictate a person's
> maturity level. Repeating the same behavior after an apology
> renders the apology null, as if it never happened. It's akin
> to praying to (whatever entity) for forgiveness for murder
> and turning around and killing the boy scout that is helping
> the old lady across the street. Asking someone to forgive
> you for wrongdoing carries the responsibility of not repeating
> the wrongdoing. Once or twice or thrice... maybe, we are all
> human. But nevermore.
>
> Let your political statements be posted to a political forum.
> Let your programming statements be posted to a programming forum.
>
> No, I will not accept any more excuses from you, nor apologies;
> not until I see that your maturity level has risen to a point
> that I feel you can carry the responsibility of that apology.
>
> BTW:you may wish to reconsider whom you call friends, as they
> seem rather myopic to me.
>
> I'm truly sorry for having to post this on this forum, but
> I didn't feel I had a choice, and I felt that it was indeed
> the right thing to do.
>
> take care all, and care of all as well--Hawke'
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