OpenEuphoria

RE: Future of Euphoria

• Posted by Ray Smith <smithr at ix.net.au> May 27, 2002
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Hi,

I'd like to respond to two points you made:

> > I cannot say that you'll succeed very well in attracting attention if 
> > you
> > don't have anything to attract attention with; furthermore, having to 
> > d/l
> > and install Euphoria just to see what it can do outside of Euphoria is
> > mighty backwards in reasoning, not at all an impressive feat for a
> > programming language, and even presumes Euphorian knowledge -YIKES!!!!

You are 100% correct.  I did a quick look around the archive myself 
and there is very little (almost zero) end user applications 
available.
It would be a nice little project for someone to create a web page
that highlights "the best" Euphoria applications with links and/or
direct downloads.
If no one does it in I might add a page called "euGems" to my web 
site.
Only applications/Games/whatever that a user can run without any 
Euphoria knowledge should be used.



> > I'll be honest and tell you that I took one look at the 'officially
> > sponsored' editor and said "I'm not going to spend six months or a year 
> > in
> > this working environment just to be able to create an appropriate 
> > working
> > environment just so I can THEN begin work on an actual application - I'd
> > rather learn C++ with all that time since it's a given that I'll be able 
> > 
> > to
> > accomplish what I wish with it."

I have sent many emails about the editor/installer for Euphoria in 
the past. As far as I'm aware the current Windows Installer is very
good.  I'd be interested if you had any problems with that.
The editor has been problematic for along time.
The biggest problem/feature of Euphoria is that it is cross platform.
An "Official" Euphoria editor "should" work on all platforms.
Personally I think Windows/Linux would be enough ... but Windows alone
is not enough.
Since there are no "solid" cross platform GUI's available in Euphoria
it is near impossible to write a cross platform editor or IDE.
Which brings me to my major "wish" ... a cross platform GUI library!


> > I think this is very unfortunate, since a simpler and versatile 
> > alternative
> > to the stringent and difficult languages would certainly be welcome by 
> > many,
> > I would think.  Anything which teaches or shows about Euphoria is on the

I can feel the frustration in your words ... and believe me I have 
felt very frustrated myself with Euphoria in the past.
Euphoria seems like (and is) an amazing language that is missing a 
few features which would skyrocket it's popularity.
And to make it even worse no one "seems" to care!
This isn't true of course ... but you can easily be mislead into
thinking it.

As I think Igor and Lucius said before ... 

if you want to use Euphoria that's great ... we will be hear to 
help ... if you don't then goodbye and good luck!

Euphoria is a community language meaning if you want something then
about the only way you will get it, is if you do it yourself.
If your interested in writing complex apps "quickly and easily" with
interfaces to things like web technologies and databases then Euphoria
probably isn't for you.
If you want to have fun programming ... Euphoria is definitely for you!


Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com