RE: Future of Euphoria

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Hi Dan,

Over the years I think I have sent 3 or 4 emails with pretty much
the same topic ("Euphoria's Future") or something very similiar!!!

Point 1:
If your seriously interested in earning a living programming learn 
as many languages as you can.  Learn some of the popular ones very 
well (like Java, Visual Basic, C++ or Delphi). If you have time left
over play with Euphoria as much as you like :)
The point is don't count on Euphoria being a popular professional
language.

Point 2:
My view is ... if you want to make Euphoria more popular create 
something that will impress other people.  This can include ...
* Software of any kind, (games, business apps, utilities, libraries,
web apps).
* A Web page(s) - there are lots of things you can write about like:
 1.  An in depth review of contributed software in the archive, screen
shots, instructions, comparisons with similiar software.
 2.  Getting started guide.
 3.  A tutorial on any area of programming ... a good one would be how
to use DLL's and shared libraries!
 4.  How to write games

... just being a little bit silly ...
if Doom or Quake had of been written using Euphoria how popular would 
it be now???

Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com


dm31 at uow.edu.au wrote:
> Srry if you get this twice. I sent in half a day ago and still haven't
> got it back.                                                          
>                                                                       
> The Future for Euphoria                                               
>                                                                       
> I first started Euphoria 3 years ago and had come from a background of
> Basic, ASM and Pascal. Althought I could see the advantages of this   
> langauge, I wasn't sure on how much could actually be achieved with   
> it. With time my respect for Eu grew greatly with librarys like       
> truecolr.e, asm.e, and through some of the games (like lemon). Last   
> year I was used Eu for my major project in Software Design &          
> Development (A new "Higher School Certificate" course) where it was   
> worth 40% of my mark for the year. I really needed time profile to    
> optimise my program (it was 20+ printed pages) and since I could not  
> afford the Complete Ed, I asked if the school could purchase it.      
> Before they would agree I had to convince the teacher that I would    
> benefit by using this as a opposed to Delphi 4 like most of the other 
> students. After downloading heaps from the contrib page I finally     
> convinced him (Rob will know the guy as Brett Hughes).                
>                                                                       
> My Grandfather works at Kaz Computing in Australia as a programmer. He
> got interested in Eu after seeing me use it, so I made a CD with      
> Euphoria with some of the more popular librarys and games.            
>                                                                       
> I can't speak for all the you, but being young I would like to think  
> that I can make a living with Euphoria just like a programmer using   
> C++ can. Rob has done a fantastic job with Euphoria with it truly     
> world-wide, but I sure most people would agree, that for Euphoria to  
> go to the popularity of the more know languages is that Euphoria needs
> to more widely know in the programming community, and hence have more 
> programmers.                                                          
>                                                                       
> First, I believe that there should be a second standard zip that can  
> be downloaded with the Euphoria Pub. Ed. with some of the most used   
> librarys and programs, such as WinLib all setup for you. That we,     
> people who join Euphoria can easily download libraries the will most  
> probilibly be of use, and hence more likely to continue using         
> Euphoria.                                                             
>                                                                       
> I have found two companies that may be of use in making Euphoria      
> 'Bigger'                                                              
>                                                                       
> The first is a company called 'SoftWrap' It provides a way of         
> distributing your program to a large market of users through such     
> things as magizines. You wrap your software in the Softwrap installer,
> then Softwrap distributes it. The installer gives you two options,    
> enabling you two distribute a trial version, if the user wishes to    
> purchase the full version, they then pay by credit card and recieve a 
> code to activite the full version installion. This could be used to   
> distribute Euphoria, or programs that we write with it. (They take    
> less then 10% of the profits, more profits, less % taking)            
>                                                                       
> The second company is Asynchrony. It's a company that is acts as a    
> very large meeting point for all people in software development. You  
> make, or join a project, finish the software and Asynchrony will do   
> all the marketing and sell and give you a large cut of the profits. I 
> joined back in it's beta days and quite like it's layout and format.  
> The only thing is that the programmers that are their are all C++, VB 
> or Delphi. Maybe we could make Euphoria a presence their and start    
> some Euphoria projects.                                               
>                                                                       
> Ah, well. Just so ideas to think about. Let me hear you comments      
>                                                                       
> Regards,                                                              
> Dan McG                                                               
>                                                                       
> ps                                                                    
>                                                                       
> to see what I'm talking about visit                                   
>                                                                       
> www.softwrap.com ?? i think                                           
>                                                                       
> www.asynchrony.com                                                    
> 
> 
>

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