Re: Euphoria Compilers Available Soon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Brown" <mabrown at SENET.COM.AU>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Euphoria Compilers Available Soon
> Mike the Spike (???) wrote....
>
> > So I have being coding three Euphoria compilers.
> > One for DOS32,one for WIN32 and one for LINUX.
>
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>
> If you supply the URL then EVERYONE on this list will look at it and you
> will certainly
> get the help you need.
>
> As it stands it does sound too good to be true and my (admittedly limited)
> knowledge
> is telling me that this doesn't gel. I suspect an upset ex-member of the
> list (a few of
> them around at the moment unfortunately!) might just be having a lend!
I haveto agree,, something is fishy here. Since i put Eu in the LISP
family,, and everything else LISPy is slower than compiled languages, and
LISP-like languages have been around awhile, i think if it was possible to
compile them before now, it would have been done already. Several Ai
projects have bit the dust over speed problems, and i suspect if Eu isn't
made extremely optimized, it will not make it as even a general purpose
language,, but given how much money has been thrown at the Ai speed problem,
someone would have done this before now if it was do-able. I'd still
sacrifice the speed (gained by the next optimization) to get a few other
programming options not available in compiled languages. I could make
suggestions,, if anyone is interested...
Kat
----- Original Message -----
From: "jiri babor" <jbabor at PARADISE.NET.NZ>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Euphoria Compilers Available Soon
> Mike,
>
> I love it. Yesterday's defenders of the faith, grim guardians of the
> oracle, are, today, falling over each other in a rush to cut his
> throat - just to get their paws on a piece of vaporware. Absolutely
> brilliant! jiri
Given it's a "testing betaware" occasion, and Robert was given the
suggestion of speeding up Eu, in a commercial product and in a (mostly)
capitalist world, what did you expect, really? Didn't Micro$oft sell code
before it was written several times? <rant_mode> Of course, they have yet to
make code that doesn't crash or wipe the puter or give safe haven to
virii/trojans or need rebooting often... Shoot, windoze actively sends 3
internet requests for info ( to 224.0.0.2 ) when it logs online, requests
that can be intercepted and used against the computer, and the data about it
in the MS database is wrong, and if that's not shooting the customer, i
don't know what is. </rant_mode>
I still vote with Mark (above), a software re-seller coding a super-new
super-speed super compiler for Eu that runs on 70 platforms?,, i don't think
so. It's a valid wakeup call for Robert tho, even if rather maddening and
depressing for him. And it's not in the USA or Canada, so he's essentially
out of practical reach of copyright prosecution. Or prosecution for bad
code.
Kat,
safely paranoid like a Cat,
and somehow wishing she was working on Robert's team to "save" Eu,
but not into office politics.
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