Re: Blow
In a message dated 3/2/2001 2:26:51 PM Central Standard Time,
bensler at mailops.com writes:
> I like the idea that the EU installation can fit on a single floppy
> disk. This makes it portable. I can take it with me wherever I go, and
> install it in a matter of a minute or two. I'm up a coding in a matter
> of fifteen minutes. Even having to set up the windows associations, set
> up win32lib and EEcs too. This I like. It is simple and a lot less
> complications. Adding things to the core would only add even more
> confusion for those who are already having trouble getting it up and
> running as it is now..
Ah yes, I do agree with you on this point. It's funny, but one of the main
reasons that I downloaded Euphoria in the first place was due to that very
fact -- at the time, I did not have Internet access at home, and was
downloading things via the local library. It cost me a dollar for the disk,
but that was the best damn dollar I ever spent, and led me eventually to get
the registered version.
However, I think I should also point out that while I was not (still ain't) a
computer genius by any means, I could understand the documentation -- and its
references to DOS, enough to install and start Euphoria. (Of course, it had
been ten years, and the last DOS I had messed with was TRS-DOS. But that's
another story ... 
) There are many folks out there who want to program,
but don't have the faintest clue about DOS prompts, environment variables,
and so forth. Remember that you can drown in shallow water if you dive in
head first and get your head stuck in the mud.
Enter the problem with ed, in my opinion. For folks who have at least a
*little* programming experience, ed is difficult, but can be mastered, if
they so desire. If not, they realize that a Euphoria program is a text file
and they then realize that they can use the text editor they are comfortable
with. For those with no programming experience, ed can be a nightmare.
That's not our fault, or Mr. Craig's fault. It's just the way things are.
I'd also suggest that for most people just coming into computing, their first
experience with an OS, like it or not, will more than likely be Windows,
especially the younger generation. Many will have never *seen* a computer
that didn't have Windows. That being the case, the youngsters will expect to
see a Windows oriented editor, and when they don't, they will have a big 'ol
fit, as we've seen. Therefore I believe it would be best to serve both sides
of the fence here as much as possible.
But I do agree that size would also be extremely important.
>Maybe Rob should consider having an ACCESSORIES installation for EU.
>People could still get the basic package, and also get the Do-Dads and
>What-Nots if they WANT to.
That also would be a Very Good Idea. Another idea I'd like to throw out
there would be to split the DOS+Win32 edition into a separate DOS edition and
Win32 edition. The DOS version would have EE, and the Windows version,
Judith's IDE. Mr. Craig could still market the DOS+WIN32 as a single unit
for the registered versions, as he's doing at present.
Just a thought. Now I'll run the spell checker, so I won't get hammered! LOL
Happy Hunting,
Travis Beaty
Claude, Texas.
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