RE: AI
On 7 Nov 2002, at 19:01, Chris Bensler wrote:
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> AI does not require the ability to dynamically program itself. That's
> what the neural net is for.
Exsqueeze me? You are separating the pattern matching ability of the neural
net from the Ai? And most electronic neural nets are programmable for new
data patterns, or learning. The laser holograms are not learning once the
"film" is developed, obviously. Neural nets are used mostly where large
numbers of patterns must be matched quickly, like dictionaries of words,
photo identification, etc. The usa military has successfully used holographic
"neural nets" to almost instantly identify tanks and planes in different
settings, for targetting weaponry.
> Can you learn to fly? No, because you have no basic skills/properties
> that would provide that sort of abilty. Our anatomy won't allow it. We
> have no wings. No hollow bones to make use light enought to be able to
> carry our weight without needing a chest the size of a small car. You
> can TRY an learn to fly, but will you ever succeed?
Learning to fly is not the same as using the physical abilities you inately
possess in biology. You don't possess the inate ability to send me text thru
solid copper threads and fiber optics 1000's of miles long do you? No. You
did find a way to learn about hardware separate from yourself to do it. It's not
human instinct to use email, you are not born with such a natal brain
function, you learned a new function and how/when/why to execute it, with a
suitable incentive to use it. But if you could not notice the sequence of
events, the pattern to use, the pattern of events leading to email happening,
and execute a non-instinctual sequence of events, you'd appear to be less
intelligent than CK's worm.
> You cannot reprogam how you see/taste/touch/hear/smell. These are our
> basic sensory tools, that we use to get input from our environment.
Wrong. I assure you, if you lose kinesthetic abilities from partial spinal cord
damage, you can train your biology to use other input to compensate to
some degree, and with surprising benefits in the right circumstances. The
new function becomes a default function too.
> Think of genes as our basic, unmodifiable properties. These are the
> properties that make us a unique species. Through inheritance, our genes
> can be modified, but that is more or less a random act (not talking
> about chromosone pairing). You can never modify your own genes.
<cough> gene therapy </cough>
> Think of instinct as our basic set of tools/actions/reactions that we
> have at our disposal. You cannot create new instincts for yourself. They
> would be calcultaed, conscious decisions, not subconscious, primitive
> reactions.
But why limit the Ai to this? Shortcircuiting instinct would be an obvious plus
to the Ai, altho you'd lose a slave.
> Think of our consciousness as a neural net. It learns how to react to
> our sensory perception, and how to more efficiently use the tools that
> we have at our disposal. When the neural net learns, it modifies
> existing links, to relevant interaction, with the apporpriate reaction.
> That does not mean that if we jump off a cliff, we can learn to fly. We
> don't have to basic tools needed for that task.
This is a matter of pattern matching the needs of flying against what's
available. Got canvas and other cheap airplane parts? Are they in the pattern
of a tent or a plane? You going to jump off the cliff with which one? Part of
being intelligent is using and modifying the environment, not only using what
you were born with.
Kat
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