Re: Is Euphoria ever going to be newbie-friendly?

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GreenEuphorian said...

So, this topic has been raised many times before, but I could never figure out what the answer to this question was. I will give it one last shot, because I am getting a bit frustrated.

On the face of it, Euphoria looks very user friendly, especially thanks to its easy and readable syntax. But then, when a user wants to go beyond the basics, things are not so easy anymore. For one, there is a huge lack of learning materials.

Most of the Euphoria users are old-timers and, let's face it, there are almost no newbies around. My guess is that the actual adoption rate is very low. I must admit I don't have any statistics, and all I go by are the forum posts: apart from the occasional newcomer, the posts are mostly by old timers, discussing some highly advanced aspect of the language.

Now, what I was hoping to achieve from this thread is some better understanding, a clarification regarding the language developement policy of Euphoria (if there is one). The question is: are newbies ever going to be the target audience of the language developement efforts (or at least of some significant part of it)?

The distinct impression that I got from reading this forum for several years is that most of the developing efforts (which include documentation, learning materials, not only language development alone) do not seem to care much for newbies. To me, it seems that the developement only goes on for the sake of the small community of the developers, who are expert programmers; if this is really the policy, newbies are bound to be left out, because they are unable to find the stepping stones that would allow them to progress. Of course Euphoria is there for anyone, in theory, but in practice not everyone can benefit from it. As pointed out in other posts, the manual is too technical, too terse. There are no up-to-date tutorials for the recent version of Euphoria. There are no schools or colleges teaching Euphoria, anywhere in the world, so all what a Euphoria learner can possibly hope for, in terms of tutorials and teaching resources, has to come from this website. Other resources for newbies such as the Rosetta Code website and the usingeuphoria.com website are not enough.

I would appreciate some comments from the developers and from the user community on this topic.

All the best,

GreenEuphorian

http://zedshaw.com/2015/06/16/early-vs-beginning-coders/

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