Re: Does anyone have a copy of eukat's irc.e?

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jimcbrown said...
eukat said...
jimcbrown said...

(I believe that robsz1 had objections to it,

Robsz1 preferred xchat. Fine.

This is true. However, I meant that I recalled that he had objections to the use of mIRC style coding with Euphoria code.

So did you. I wasn't trying to emulate mirc, i was trying to emulate objects, the events, irc is a sequential series of statements, it's pretty stateless, and there's 100's of numeric ststements.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

But Eu had no gui.e, and still doesn't. I use windows, mirc is a useable versatile gui i could attach Eu code to in several ways, so i did. What did anyone else do to make a irc gui?

Good point. Jeremy did it, but it was half a decade later.

Not for irc. Unless you count the "chat" thing, which uses a dos console.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...
jimcbrown said...

but this was roughly a decade ago

And we are still fighting over it,

Just you.

Takes two. This long post of your's is an extraordinary effort to disprove anything i say.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

no one is cooperating on the subject,

In general, I see plently of cooperation with regards to the new stdlib sockets and net stuff. The lack of activity with IRC specifically is just that - not enough willing people with experience in that protocol to do anything useful.

I don't see anything going on. Last i saw, my efforts with http.e, task messaging, and news.e was being thrown out.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

there's still no gui.e,

True, not in the stdlib. wxEuphoria has emerged as the main nix GUI library, and is a 2nd contender after w32lib on Windoze. EuGTK has emerged as the other major nix GUI library.

I don't see a how-to or why-this in wxeuphoria. I'm useless, you are going to pick apart anything i do or say, so why should i learn to write a gui for an irc.e that you don't want, and cannot even acknowledge (below) that i just sent to bugmagnet?

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

So it's a real static situation,

True, there hasn't been anything new with IRC coding since Jeremy. I guess someone new just has to take the mantle.

Not counting, of course, the code i just sent to bugmagnet.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

it's socks were on tcp4u (so it not working on linux wasn't my problem).

I did reach out to you on creating a merged version that worked both on windoze (via tcp4u) and on nix (as well as reaching out to jami for a nix version of tcp4u), but got nothing.

You know what? i still know nothing about interfacing a gui to nix!

jimcbrown said...

v4 fixed the console hangups, added a socket library to replace tcp4u/3rd-party-dll/WinSock.ew/et al. So I'd say in 10 years, it's become a whole new world.

Yep, the irc.e you cannot ack uses sockets.e, tasks.e, and it works. But in a way, it is the same old world:

jimcbrown said...

True, there hasn't been anything new with IRC coding since Jeremy.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

As far as i know, no one made a gui as functional as mirc's for any irc bot in Euphoria,

I think rywilly's FluidAE/rybot may have. Jeremy's EuChat didn't, but it's easily extendable.

So has every irc bot i ever wrote, "easily extendable" to a gui, but it hasn't happened. Hence my belief a irc bot isn't wanted, Ai isn't wanted, i am not wanted. If Ry could keep his bot connected, sure, having an Ry-designed gui on it would be fantastic, of course it would be strictly part of his bot, and not a gui.e.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

but both versions of my Eu bot code interfacing Eu to mirc were shot dead on arrival.

Not by me.

You all shot them dead for not running on nix, and for using mirc.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

In the 2002-2003 timeframe, we had the right people, i think,

Actually, I'm not sure I'd agree.

Of course you would not agree, that's you, it's what you do, you natively disagree with me, on everything.

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...
jimcbrown said...

<anything to refute anything kat says>

This is a great example of why i have not made more Euphoria code in the last ten years, and instead done as little as possible.

I think the below quote is the real reason...

eukat said...

I deleted more proven good bot code than most people ever write, because it's all deemed useless. All a huge waste.

I don't believe that the above is true. But you seem to, and that's the real waste imvho.

Show me where Euphoria or the Eu "community" in the last 10 years has welcomed any code i ever wrote. You can't do it.

useless

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