Re: Does anyone have a copy of eukat's irc.e?
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Jun 04, 2013
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(I believe that robsz1 had objections to it,
Robsz1 preferred xchat. Fine.
This is true. However, I meant that I recalled that he had objections to the use of mIRC style coding with Euphoria code.
But Eu had no gui.e, and still doesn't. I use windows, mirc is a useable versatile gui i could attach Eu code to in several ways, so i did. What did anyone else do to make a irc gui?
Good point. Jeremy did it, but it was half a decade later.
but this was roughly a decade ago
And we are still fighting over it,
Just you.
no one is cooperating on the subject,
In general, I see plently of cooperation with regards to the new stdlib sockets and net stuff. The lack of activity with IRC specifically is just that - not enough willing people with experience in that protocol to do anything useful.
there's still no gui.e,
True, not in the stdlib. wxEuphoria has emerged as the main nix GUI library, and is a 2nd contender after w32lib on Windoze. EuGTK has emerged as the other major nix GUI library.
So it's a real static situation,
True, there hasn't been anything new with IRC coding since Jeremy. I guess someone new just has to take the mantle.
it's socks were on tcp4u (so it not working on linux wasn't my problem).
I did reach out to you on creating a merged version that worked both on windoze (via tcp4u) and on nix (as well as reaching out to jami for a nix version of tcp4u), but got nothing.
It was pretty much ignored, except for jimbrown, who was busy promoting his(?) non-Eu "tbrbot":
Session Start: Fri May 30 00:38:01 2003 [00:38] *** Now talking in #EuBot [00:38] *** Topic is 'Bots made in Euphoria! And my bot, tbrbot, made in C++, of course!' [00:38] *** Set by tbrown on Sun May 11 15:03:39
tbrbot is not mine. I did not set that topic. I did not use that nick.
Prior to Eu v4, there were occasional bugs in Euphoria like:
[23:09] <EuMario> Kat, did you have trouble with EuBot Hanging at the pause when you first log into the server? [23:10] <tbrown> from tbrbot's console [23:10] <kat> yeas, that is a known Eu bug [23:10] <kat> it happens *sometimes* when a console is opened, so RobC won't fix it [23:10] <kat> press enter [23:22] <useless> [22:28] <useless> if getc/s() is ever used, like i use it for seeing if you press 'Q', it often hangs the app the first time around [23:22] <scooby> nope [23:22] <useless> you can search the email archives for that bug, RDS won't/cannot fixitand tcp4u had issues, the other 3rd party dll we used for internet connections back then had issues. The irc apps using WinSock.ew / Srvsckip.ew worked great until win32lib was upgraded, and then the apps no longer worked. I think Scooby did a code fix to not use win32lib, but it didn't work for me.
Anyhow, nothing happened the last 10 years.
v4 fixed the console hangups, added a socket library to replace tcp4u/3rd-party-dll/WinSock.ew/et al. So I'd say in 10 years, it's become a whole new world.
As far as i know, no one made a gui as functional as mirc's for any irc bot in Euphoria,
I think rywilly's FluidAE/rybot may have. Jeremy's EuChat didn't, but it's easily extendable.
but both versions of my Eu bot code interfacing Eu to mirc were shot dead on arrival.
Not by me.
In the 2002-2003 timeframe, we had the right people, i think,
Actually, I'm not sure I'd agree. Of all the people that have written bots for that channel, in that time frame, only you and I and robsz1 had worked on Euphoria IRC bots. (rywilly would too, but he wouldn't come along until later. And after that came Jeremy, etc.) Both robsz1 and I would later drop out of the community due to other IRL events (he had to work several jobs and eventually joined the military, while I got boggled down with schooling). rywilly also disappeared for a while (due to his military duties). Most of this time, you would have been alone.
<anything to refute anything kat says>
This is a great example of why i have not made more Euphoria code in the last ten years, and instead done as little as possible.
I think the below quote is the real reason...
I deleted more proven good bot code than most people ever write, because it's all deemed useless. All a huge waste.
I don't believe that the above is true. But you seem to, and that's the real waste imvho.
we could have built Skynet by now, and jimbrown would be picking at it till it died.
Heh, I'm not sure I'd take on Skynet ... unless I had a certain former Republican govenor on my side, that is.
