Re: Euphoria & Ubuntu
Hello D. Newhall,
Please understand that when I ask that you to do a favor to the Euphoria mailing
list and "take it offline", that means that you should *not* post your Linux
diatribe to the list. If you can't figure out how to email me without posting to
the list then I guess I'm just sorry for you.
D. Newhall wrote:
>
> Brian Broker wrote:
> >
> >
> > My "logic" is based on your signature which I interpret as: I don't use MS
> > products; I run Linux. As a result, I have no AddWare(sic), SpyWare, or
> > Viruses.
> > To me, this somehow implies that you would have these things if you did use
> > MS products.
> >
> > Either I'm misinterpreting this or it would be your logic which escapes me.
> >
> > -- Brian
>
> It took me a while to get what you were saying because it almost didn't make
> sense in a way because of course it's implied that you get these things if
> you use a Microsoft OS.
>
> Before you said that "AddWare, SpyWare, or Viruses aren't an excuse because
> they are preventable." How is that not a perfectly good reason? MS Windows has
> those problems but we* don't. Yes, they are preventable, from either the
> programmer
> or user side. If it's from the programmer side you're using a flawed OS which
> puts you and your information at risk wheras our OSes don't have those flaws.
> Advantage, us. Now, if it's preventable from the user side then you're still
> using a flawed system because we don't have to deal with them just like you
> but we didn't have to do any work at all (no more than what you have to do in
> Windows depending on your distro). Granted, some of these user problems have
> been taken care of in XP SP2 but they haven't been eliminated yet. So, in
> conclusion,
> our systems are either better designed from the implementation side, or the
> user interface side, or both, than MS Windows.
>
> * Note: Technically I don't belong in this group since I gave up Linux a while
> ago but I run Mac OS X/FreeBSD/ZETA which is just like Linux but better. So
> when I say "we" I mean all Unix-like OS users.
>
> Also, to answer your earlier question "is there something in particular about
> MS that prevents you from realizing your potential?", there are quite a few
> things actually. I made the switch a while ago from MS Windows to FreeBSD (I
> keep Windows for games though) then I switched again to ZETA and then I got
> a Mac. Before this I also used various forms of Linux (I ran Red Hat on my
> home
> machine and I still use it at work) and growing up I used DOS and SunOS 3.
> I've
> used a lot of OSes in my life and I have to say that Windows is, hands-down,
> one of the worst ones I've used. Besides being plagued with bugs in earlier
> versions the Windows GUI is just unintuitive, restrictive, feature-less, and
> relatively ugly. It's the little things that make my productivity skyrocket
> with other OSes such as Exposé in Mac OS X and the "Copy to... -> Last
> accessed
> folder" dialog in ZETA (GNOME for *nixes also has features I love over Windows
> but nothing jumps out at me right this second). Plus, nothing beats Unix shell
> scripts for "glue" programming (and they're more cross platform than what's
> in MS's stuff). The GUIs in my other OSes are intuitive and don't get in my
> way, I like that. Microsoft's I have to tweak before I get even remotely close
> to the level of productivity I get with even my FreeBSD terminal(!) and I can
> only tweak Windows so much. I will give Microsoft credit for XP which besides
> the massive security flaws and viruses was very good. However, if it wasn't
> for my games I wouldn't have Windows on any of my computers because I am more
> productive with pretty much any other system and any "killer apps" I need I
> can get replacements for or can run them emulated.
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