1. Re: Euphoria & Ubuntu
- Posted by Brian Broker <brian_broker at yahoo.com> Jun 04, 2006
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Hello D. Newhall, Please understand that when I ask that you to do a favor to the Euphoria mailing list and "take it offline", that means that you should *not* post your Linux diatribe to the list. If you can't figure out how to email me without posting to the list then I guess I'm just sorry for you. D. Newhall wrote: > > Brian Broker wrote: > > > > > > My "logic" is based on your signature which I interpret as: I don't use MS > > products; I run Linux. As a result, I have no AddWare(sic), SpyWare, or > > Viruses. > > To me, this somehow implies that you would have these things if you did use > > MS products. > > > > Either I'm misinterpreting this or it would be your logic which escapes me. > > > > -- Brian > > It took me a while to get what you were saying because it almost didn't make > sense in a way because of course it's implied that you get these things if > you use a Microsoft OS. > > Before you said that "AddWare, SpyWare, or Viruses aren't an excuse because > they are preventable." How is that not a perfectly good reason? MS Windows has > those problems but we* don't. Yes, they are preventable, from either the > programmer > or user side. If it's from the programmer side you're using a flawed OS which > puts you and your information at risk wheras our OSes don't have those flaws. > Advantage, us. Now, if it's preventable from the user side then you're still > using a flawed system because we don't have to deal with them just like you > but we didn't have to do any work at all (no more than what you have to do in > Windows depending on your distro). Granted, some of these user problems have > been taken care of in XP SP2 but they haven't been eliminated yet. So, in > conclusion, > our systems are either better designed from the implementation side, or the > user interface side, or both, than MS Windows. > > * Note: Technically I don't belong in this group since I gave up Linux a while > ago but I run Mac OS X/FreeBSD/ZETA which is just like Linux but better. So > when I say "we" I mean all Unix-like OS users. > > Also, to answer your earlier question "is there something in particular about > MS that prevents you from realizing your potential?", there are quite a few > things actually. I made the switch a while ago from MS Windows to FreeBSD (I > keep Windows for games though) then I switched again to ZETA and then I got > a Mac. Before this I also used various forms of Linux (I ran Red Hat on my > home > machine and I still use it at work) and growing up I used DOS and SunOS 3. > I've > used a lot of OSes in my life and I have to say that Windows is, hands-down, > one of the worst ones I've used. Besides being plagued with bugs in earlier > versions the Windows GUI is just unintuitive, restrictive, feature-less, and > relatively ugly. It's the little things that make my productivity skyrocket > with other OSes such as Exposé in Mac OS X and the "Copy to... -> Last > accessed > folder" dialog in ZETA (GNOME for *nixes also has features I love over Windows > but nothing jumps out at me right this second). Plus, nothing beats Unix shell > scripts for "glue" programming (and they're more cross platform than what's > in MS's stuff). The GUIs in my other OSes are intuitive and don't get in my > way, I like that. Microsoft's I have to tweak before I get even remotely close > to the level of productivity I get with even my FreeBSD terminal(!) and I can > only tweak Windows so much. I will give Microsoft credit for XP which besides > the massive security flaws and viruses was very good. However, if it wasn't > for my games I wouldn't have Windows on any of my computers because I am more > productive with pretty much any other system and any "killer apps" I need I > can get replacements for or can run them emulated.