Re: Open Discussion (Euphoria)
Hi Vincent,
Win32 API is not going anywhere anytime time soon. There are too many
current and past applications that depend on it, rest assured Win32API will=
be around for at least another 20 years. 85% of all computers in the world=
use a Windows OS, so do not think Linux or any other OS will replace Window=
s
in the near future. And as I explained before the hybrid version of EU will=
not have anything to do with the current version of Euphoria. Linux is a=
pure example of people taking something open source and morphing it into=
other products. There are free and commercial versions of Linux and people=
choose which versions they want to use.
Porting EU to 4 or 5 different platforms is not going to change the fact=
people see Euphoria as a hobby language. EU is open source, but has that=
increased the users significantly? EU has been out long enough to have a=
community of no less than 500,000 users or more. There are inferior
languages that were developed and released after EU and have gained far mor=
e
popularity than EU. EU was first released in 1993 and I could count the
amount of major articles written about the language. 12 years is a long tim=
e
to get people to notice you, so it is obvious a new approach is needed. I=
have been using EU a very long time, and I have seen dedicated EU members=
leave the community because of their frustration with Robert and the
language.
If EU was truly open source then I would not have to get permission from=
Robert to create a hybrid version to begin with, and that is what I do not=
understand. It seems Robert wants people to add features to the language bu=
t
he is also restricting what people do with their =93custom=94 versions. I=
personally feel Robert has done all he can do with the language and he
should allow others to take it in other directions.
>From: Vincent <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
>Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com
>To: EUforum at topica.com
>Subject: Re: Open Discussion (Euphoria)
>Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:46:38 -0800
>
>
>posted by: Vincent <darkvincentdude at yahoo.com>
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>There are a couple problems with that concept.
>
>The Euphoria interpreter is now free and open-source (PD-source) software.=
>The only products that cost money are the distribution tools and C source=
>code. However, many Euphorians really don't need these products, but some=
>buy them anyway to support RDS and find uses for them.
>
>Euphoria is meant to be multi-platform, with MacOS x86 being next on the=
>porting list. The future of Windows development lies within Microsoft's=
>WinFX development platform. While the Win32 API may still be available,=
>eventually fewer and fewer will use it. If Microsoft were to remove the=
>Win32 API and emulated DOS, Euphoria would no longer run on Windows.
>This is why investing time with Linux, BSD, and MacOS shall get more
>important, while hoping Microsoft does not remove them anytime soon.
>
>With all this said, I highly doubt a Windows only, commercial Euphoria
>language could succeed. Instead, I think RDS should consider adding
>thread-safety into the interpreter and translator, so we can utilize
>the new rising trend of multi-core processors. Then support 64-bit
>Euphoria products, so we can utilize more than 2 GB of memory on our
>64-bit computers. Additionally, it's possible that Cell processors
>could make it into mainstream PC markets in the foreseeable future.
>If so, I would like C/C++ compilers and an Euphoria version to run
>on the them as well.
>
>
>Regards,
>Vincent
>
>
>
>
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