1. EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Well, I think I'm going to shutdown the EuDesk project. I have had no support
for it.
For now, I'm working on a project called EUFF or the Euphoria File Finder,
a searchable databse system for storing the locations of ALL of your files.
2. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Tristen Wilson wrote:
>
> Well, I think I'm going to shutdown the EuDesk project. I have had no support
> for it.
>
> For now, I'm working on a project called EUFF or the Euphoria File Finder,
> a searchable databse system for storing the locations of ALL of your files.
I have never seen any code or url listed here for a EuDesk project ??
Bernie
My files in archive:
WMOTOR, XMOTOR, W32ENGIN, MIXEDLIB, EU_ENGIN, WIN32ERU, WIN32API
Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan
3. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Bernie Ryan wrote:
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> Tristen Wilson wrote:
> >
> > Well, I think I'm going to shutdown the EuDesk project. I have had no
> > support
> > for it.
> >
> > For now, I'm working on a project called EUFF or the Euphoria File Finder,
> > a searchable databse system for storing the locations of ALL of your files.
>
> I have never seen any code or url listed here for a EuDesk project ??
He never did. But he did create a sourceforge project:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eudesk/
The initial 'introduction' of EuDesk on this forum was pretty bizarre:
http://www.openeuphoria.org/cgi-bin/esearch.exu?thread=1&fromMonth=6&fromYear=C&toMonth=8&toYear=C&keywords=%22New+EUphoria+Based+OS%22
"I was looking for User input on creating an Entireley Euphoria Based OS.
All it would require is windows DLLs. All calls for Windows Executables would
sent to the DLLs for proccessing and Execution. Graphics would be managed by
OpenGL and DirectE (If Completed) or DirectX (If Interfaceable).
The entire system would be Efficient and powerful. (Just Like Euphoria)
It could run off of a DOS system if it won't work like a standalone OS.
This may seem to be a fantasy, but I beleive it could be done! It might take a
year or two but it would be worth it to Euphoria Programmers."
He sounds like he had some big ideas and expected everyone else to jump in
and execute. It's not clear to me how you can have "an Entireley Euphoria
Based OS" that "would require...windows DLLs."
Unfortunately, I don't see the possibility of a successful outcome with this
project, regardless of its members.
Matt
4. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
- Posted by Tristen Wilson <wood_dip_kill at ?ahoo?com>
Oct 01, 2007
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Last edited Oct 02, 2007
I did not expect everyone to "Jump to it", and the initial design may be flawed
as I don't see how you can use Euphoria to Call Windows Routines under DOS
(Which would be the lowest level of EuDesk) However, Writing a DOS based OS in
euphoria
would probably be more realistic than a completly EUphoria based OS.
5. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
- Posted by Phil Russell <pg_russell at li?eo?e.net>
Oct 01, 2007
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Last edited Oct 02, 2007
Matt Lewis wrote:
> He sounds like he had some big ideas and expected everyone else to jump in
> and execute. It's not clear to me how you can have "an Entireley Euphoria
> Based OS" that "would require...windows DLLs."
>
> Unfortunately, I don't see the possibility of a successful outcome with this
> project, regardless of its members.
>
> Matt
Sigh. Such lack of vision...
I was quite looking forward to seeing an OS built with a scripting
language that relies on an executable compiled for a completely
different OS.
Looking on the bright side, it sounds like I will soon be able to find those
pesky files that my current (lame) OS seems to have mislaid 
6. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
- Posted by Tristen Wilson <wood_dip_kill at yahoo.co?>
Oct 01, 2007
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Last edited Oct 02, 2007
Thank you for being hopeful, but the project hasn't closed quite yet.
7. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Tristen Wilson wrote:
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> Thank you for being hopeful, but the project hasn't closed quite yet.
Far "easier" I would say would be to base it on a Linux kernel. However why
re-invent the wheel?
If you were to go the Windows way, then maybe BartPE would be a starting point
(http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/) however the legality of that would be
questionable. You would have to create a system for people to build it from
their own XP cds.
I am currently using (ie writing this) on Damn Small Linux
(http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/) for which I created a modular extension to
install Euphoria. So I do like the idea of a small, light-weight, environment.
Gary
8. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Gary Shingles wrote:
>
>
> I am currently using (ie writing this) on Damn Small Linux
> (<a href="http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/">http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/</a>)
> for which I created a modular extension to install Euphoria. So I do like the
> idea of a small,
> light-weight, environment.
>
> Gary
Neat, Gary! I'd love to have DSL with Euphoria on a bootable USB drive.
Is there any way you can submit your work to the DSL power's that be
in hopes that it/Euphoria might be included in the DSL distribution?
Ken Rhodes
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9. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Tristen:
Did you look at the post by Igor for the Kolibri OS and Euphoria.
This is an Operating system that the Russian Euphoria programmers are working
on.
http://www.openeuphoria.org/cgi-bin/esearch.exu?thread=1&fromMonth=9&fromYear=C&toMonth=A&toYear=C&postedBy=&keywords=%22+Kolibri+OS+and+Euphoria%22
Bernie
My files in archive:
WMOTOR, XMOTOR, W32ENGIN, MIXEDLIB, EU_ENGIN, WIN32ERU, WIN32API
Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan
10. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Tristen Wilson wrote:
>
> I did not expect everyone to "Jump to it", and the initial design may be
> flawed
> as I don't see how you can use Euphoria to Call Windows Routines under DOS
> (Which would be the lowest level of EuDesk) However, Writing a DOS based OS
> in euphoria would probably be more realistic than a completly EUphoria
> based OS.
Well, you never really did anything, but asked for help, and implied that
CK's bounty site would enable people to pay (I'm assuming, based on your
comment--because you could have simply offered up something--that you
weren't planning to offer any bounties) for bounties to get the project
off the ground.
Do you have any other work to share besides what you've said on this forum?
It's not clear to me (and probably for others) what the benefits of this
project would be. What sort of features are you thinking about? Can you
compare this to anything currently in existence?
I guess we have different ideas of what an OS is. Are you talking about
writing some sort of a window manager? Or were you planning on rewriting
command.com and friends in euphoria?
Given what we've heard so far, I wouldn't even classify this as vaporware.
Matt
11. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
I find this comment to be somewhat offensive. My plan was to create a simple
GUI Window Manager by building on existing code. Euphoria Works nicely
with DOS, so knowing this, why not build from there? It may not run Windows
programs,
but it would be easy to write or download you own programs wouldn't it?
Oh, and the 'Bounty' would have became a reality about a month ago.
But Unfortunately, my computer died, so I bought a new one.
12. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
>
> Gary Shingles wrote:
> >
>
> > I am currently using (ie writing this) on Damn Small Linux
> > (<a
> > href="http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/">http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/</a>)
> > for which I created a modular extension to install Euphoria. So I do like
> the idea of a small,</font></i>
> > light-weight, environment.
> >
> > Gary
>
> Neat, Gary! I'd love to have DSL with Euphoria on a bootable USB drive.
> Is there any way you can submit your work to the DSL power's that be
> in hopes that it/Euphoria might be included in the DSL distribution?
I doubt it would be added to the base distribution, the aim of DSL is never to
exceed 50Mb in size. I will submit it as a .dsl extension for testing, and with
that you can put eu311.dsl in your /mydsl folder on your USB drive. That way it
will either be automatically loaded, or easy to load via MyDSL.
Gary
13. Re: EuDesk going to be Shutdown
Tristen Wilson wrote:
> I find this comment to be somewhat offensive. My plan was to create a simple
> GUI Window Manager by building on existing code. Euphoria Works nicely
> with DOS, so knowing this, why not build from there? It may not run Windows
> programs,
> but it would be easy to write or download you own programs wouldn't it?
> Oh, and the 'Bounty' would have became a reality about a month ago.
> But Unfortunately, my computer died, so I bought a new one.
Tristen, you have been around here for some months now ...
So you should have noticed, that almost everyone else quotes the parts
of a post, to which (s)he is referring. This is important for serious
discussing on a list like this, and therefore doing so is a well
established and very basic rule.
For details see e.g. <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
Regards,
Juergen
