1. ATTN: EUPHORIA Programmers

http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed

In particular, this paragraph for all you EUPHORIA programmers:

"You've pretty much gotten by with off-the-shelf software. Was it tough to
find everything you needed in the open-source world?
Yeah, there are some things that are tough to find, like payroll software.
We found something, and it works well. But the developers need to start
writing the real-world applications people need to run a
business...engineering, art and design tools, that kind of stuff...They're
all trying to build servers that already exist and do a whole bunch of stuff
that's already out there...I think there's a lot of room to not just create
an alternative to Microsoft but really take the next step and do something
new."

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2. Re: ATTN: EUPHORIA Programmers

--- "C. K. Lester" <cklester at yahoo.com> wrote:

http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed
> 
> In particular, this paragraph for all you EUPHORIA
> programmers:
> 
> "You've pretty much gotten by with off-the-shelf
> software. Was it tough to
> find everything you needed in the open-source world?
> Yeah, there are some things that are tough to find,
> like payroll software.
> We found something, and it works well. But the
> developers need to start
> writing the real-world applications people need to
> run a
> business...engineering, art and design tools, that
> kind of stuff...They're
> all trying to build servers that already exist and
> do a whole bunch of stuff
> that's already out there...I think there's a lot of
> room to not just create
> an alternative to Microsoft but really take the next
> step and do something
> new."

Yes, there's a real reluctance on the part of
open-source 
programmers to write "real-world" programs. The kind
of programs that gave a lot of shareware authors and 
small developers their start when Windows was first 
becoming popular. (And going back even further in
time, another set of programs  and another set of
developers when DOS first became popular)

I don't pretend to know the reason for this
difference, 
unless it's because the previous developers were most 
often "real world" people who took up programming
to make their jobs easier,  while the new group of
developers are mostly computer geeks who have never 
done anything but pound their keyboards.

Sad, really, because in the Windows days, anyone who 
wrote a truly great program was likely to be bulldozed

into oblivion my Microsoft (most common response to 
a popular non-MS program was to come out with a 
buggy but "free" MS clone, which killed the market for

the original).
In the case of Linux, however, there's little chance
of that happening, so developers ought to be even more
anxious to get into the game.

Irv

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3. Re: ATTN: EUPHORIA Programmers

When we're talking about real-world programs, I assume we mean ERP (ala
SAP), POS, PDM, and accounting programs for the business world. 
Programs like this tend to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to
develop on an enterprise scale.  Most enterprises are less than willing
to invest in a project that doesn't meet the CEO's "staying power"
criterion.  "Staying power" is generally defined in CEO terms as a
healthy position on the stock exchange for at least a year.  There's a
real chicken & egg situation for this type of thing, and that's not
likely to be resolved anytime soon.  

Mike Sabal

>>> eugtk at yahoo.com 08/20/03 02:50PM >>>
Yes, there's a real reluctance on the part of
open-source 
programmers to write "real-world" programs.

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