1. my new VM

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Well, my virtual machine is coming along well. It already runs my small boot
sector, but I've run into a little snag. After
it prints a message, it enters a loop that keeps jumping to itself. After
several seconds, it crashes. The bad thing is, I
don't have the registered version of Euphoria. Could anyone debug this for me?

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2. Re: my new VM

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:41:28 -0500, matt <uglyfish87 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>Well, my virtual machine is coming along well. It already runs my small
boot
>sector, but I've run into a little snag. After
>it prints a message, it enters a loop that keeps jumping to itself. After
>several seconds, it crashes. The bad thing is, I
>don't have the registered version of Euphoria. Could anyone debug this for
me?
>

Hi Matt,

Let alone risking crashing their puter, why should people with a registered
copy of
EU support someone who isn't? Don't you think that sort of defeats the
purpose of
registering?
I don't think it would be fair to those of us who have purchased Eu to do
so. I think it's
a good incentive for you to get a reg'd copy. It's cheap!!
After all, you are making a VM. That's a fairly sophisticated prog, not to
mention
you've been around here for quite a while now. I think it's 'bout time, you
have
certainly had more than enough time to get your fingers dirty with the PD
version.
You really shouldn't be developing apps with a shareware programming
language..
Can't say your still learning the ins and outs of EU anymore..

I've got nothing against you, it's the principle of the matter..

Regards,
Chris

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3. Re: my new VM

<snip>
>I've got nothing against you, it's the principle of the matter..
<snip>

Chris,

I have nothing against you either but people such as Matt have their own
reasons why they have not registered (yet?).  I see no reason why people
should adhere to your definition of when it is right and proper to register
shareware.  Euphoria, as far as I know, does not have a X days trial period
licence on the public domain copy.  It is left to the individual to decide
if and when.

I respect your opinions and if you do not wish to help people with problems
that can only be easily solved with a fully registered version then fine.
I just don't think it's nice to try and make out on the list that these
people are trying to get something for nothing.  In my view they are not -
all they would like is some help.

If you consider this a "flame" then my apologies - it is not meant to be.
I guess it's just a principle thing of mine.
Regards,

Andy Cranston.

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4. Re: my new VM

you can stop flaming now...i fixed it. but all i have left is to emulate
some more instructions. it already runs my little boot sector! later...

 - Matt

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5. Re: my new VM

> From: Andy Cranston
> > From: Chris Bensler
> <snip>
> >I've got nothing against you, it's the principle of the matter..

<snip>

> I respect your opinions and if you do not wish to help people
> with problems
> that can only be easily solved with a fully registered
> version then fine.
> I just don't think it's nice to try and make out on the list
> that these
> people are trying to get something for nothing.  In my view
> they are not -
> all they would like is some help.

Both of you have some good points, however, I have to agree with Chris here.


What Matt (different Matt, BTW) said was that he wasn't able to easily debug
using the PD version, and asked for a registered user to help.  Even though
you can't get detailed error reports from the PD version, there are a lot of
things that can be done to debug (ie, write your own log file or print to
the screen).

If he'd at least mentioned that he'd done all this, and did more of the
initial foot work, I'd respect his request a lot more.  Not that I don't
understand the frustration.  That's what finally got me to register. :)

But sending a project with multiple files, and not giving any clue about
what's going wrong (not to mention how it's _supposed_ to work) probably
won't sit well with most registered users, "The bad thing is, Idon't have
the registered version of Euphoria. Could anyone debug this for me?"

Now, if he asked some people who'd already agreed to collaborate on the
project, that would be another matter...

Matt Lewis

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