1. Markup Language
- Posted by John DeHope <jwap at SOUTHEAST.NET> Sep 17, 1997
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SInce Euphoria already imposes some imbedded characters such as "\n" for a new line why not use that system too? Here is my suggestion. \T# for text color \B# for background color \Cx,y for text coordinate \Xx,y,width,height for a text box graphic \Px,y,picture sequence OR picture file for a graphic of format .??? \\ just a normal \ character On the same subject, why is such a common character as "\" used for this purpose? I know that many standard C libraries use the same character. Why not something less common, such as the "~" character or "`" or "^". John DeHope
2. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by "Christopher K. Lester" <cklester at FLASH.NET> Sep 17, 1997
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At 05:33 PM 9/17/97 -0400, you wrote: > >SInce Euphoria already imposes some imbedded characters such as "\n" for >a new line why not use that system too? Here is my suggestion. > >\T# for text color >\B# for background color >\Cx,y for text coordinate >\Xx,y,width,height for a text box graphic >\Px,y,picture sequence OR picture file for a graphic of format .??? >\\ just a normal \ character There has to be a "closing" marker, because you may have instances where you want to print "1234" at position 5,10, and it would look like this without ending markers: markup("blah blah blah \C10,371234") I'm using the "<>"s because it is similar to HTML, and ultimately a markup language compatible with HTML would be nice. Thanks! ck
3. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen <nieuwen at XS4ALL.NL> Jan 01, 1970
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> I'm using the "<>"s because it is similar to HTML, and ultimately a markup > language compatible with HTML would be nice. Would be the smartest too, some people then don't have anything too learn to use you Mark-Up routines.. Also it has some benefits too... you can use wysiwyg-html-editors to write you documents (help-docs, or just the readme's) and then display it the same way. There now is program available for download the the Euphoria Site that allows you to convert windows-true-type fonts to Jiri Babor's font format. Jiri is also working (as he said on a mail on this list serv) on a new version of his Font Package, maybe it can be created in such way it can handle windows font-files too. Maybe you can create a mark-up language together. For graphics.. i'll be upload my working AllModes library which can only do very very basic tasks (no virtual screen management or sprites. Just extended memory copy (M. Bolin) and resizable drawing commands in a list. Which will work for *any* video mode (including modeX now :)) (Thank you Pete). Later on i'll write a different include file which will use AllModes for advanced sprite management and virtual screens and more.... You people could use AllModes to use quick (althrough still flexible) graphics routines. Your routines can compile the different fonts and/or formatting tricks to a command list (so the slowdown is in the compiling), so that whenever you want to draw it *fast* you just execute the precompiled command list. (BTW if you change graphics mode for example, all the command lists will be automatically recompiled, which is required for the lists to still work) Anyway please go for a full html 3 compatible library, please.. That would be really nice !! Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen nieuwen at xs4all.nl
4. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by Jacques Guy <j.guy at TRL.TELSTRA.COM.AU> Sep 19, 1997
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Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote: : > I'm using the "<>"s because it is similar to HTML, and ultimately a markup : > language compatible with HTML would be nice. : Would be the smartest too, some people then don't have anything too : learn to use you Mark-Up routines.. Yes, I fully concur. Not having to learn anything new to use such a feature would be wonderful. Nothing to learn, easy to remember, difficult to forget, those are very desirable features of any system.
5. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by Michael Packard <lgp at EXO.COM> Sep 18, 1997
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On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, Jacques Guy wrote: > : > I'm using the "<>"s because it is similar to HTML, and ultimately a > markup > : > language compatible with HTML would be nice. > > : Would be the smartest too, some people then don't have > anything too > : learn to use you Mark-Up routines.. > > Yes, I fully concur. Not having to learn anything new to use such a > feature > would be wonderful. Nothing to learn, easy to remember, difficult to > forget, those are very desirable features of any system. > um, WHY do we need ANY markup language?
6. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by "Christopher K. Lester" <cklester at FLASH.NET> Sep 18, 1997
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At 04:29 PM 9/18/97 -0700, you wrote: >um, WHY do we need ANY markup language? > For me, simplicity and convenience. Instead of having to do multiple lines of coding, use one line... etc. etc. I'm writing various business applications and other utilities, whose output I want to clarify and spice-up with colors and positioning and etc. Instead of breaking up multiple "puts" with multiple "text_color"s, I can use the markup language to display everything nicely and neatly. KnowwhatImean?
7. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by Michael Packard <lgp at EXO.COM> Sep 18, 1997
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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Christopher K. Lester wrote: > At 04:29 PM 9/18/97 -0700, you wrote: > >um, WHY do we need ANY markup language? > > > > For me, simplicity and convenience. Instead of having to do multiple lines > of coding, use one line... etc. etc. > > I'm writing various business applications and other utilities, whose output > I want to clarify and spice-up with colors and positioning and etc. Instead > of breaking up multiple "puts" with multiple "text_color"s, I can use the > markup language to display everything nicely and neatly. So, you'd rather have one really complex line than 3 simple lines? ok.
8. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by "Christopher K. Lester" <cklester at FLASH.NET> Sep 18, 1997
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- Last edited Sep 19, 1997
At 06:01 PM 9/18/97 -0700, you wrote: > >So, you'd rather have one really complex line than 3 simple lines? >ok. Is HTML complex to you? For me, embedding functions into a line of output is preferred over having to break it out over multiple lines. And we're not just talking "3 simple lines" in most cases. I'm formatting a whole screen of data, in lists, text boxes, etc.
9. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by Ad Rienks <Ad_Rienks at COMPUSERVE.COM> Sep 19, 1997
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>> >So, you'd rather have one really complex line than 3 simple >lines? >ok. >Is HTML complex to you? For me, embedding functions into a line >of output is preferred over having to break it out over multiple >lines. And we're not just talking "3 simple lines" in most >cases. I'm formatting a whole screen of data, in lists, text >boxes, etc. = Have you considered putting the list, text boxes etc. into procedures or functions? That way you can call such a routine in one simple line, without having t= o write a whole new language. Sincerely, Ad Rienks email Ad_Rienks at compuserve.com writing at 11:55 , = on vrijdag 19 september 1997 Using EMail Assist for WinCIM
10. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by "Christopher K. Lester" <cklester at FLASH.NET> Sep 19, 1997
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At 05:56 AM 9/19/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Have you considered putting the list, text boxes etc. into procedures or >functions? >That way you can call such a routine in one simple line, without having t= >o >write a whole new language. That's part of it. I guess I should use what's-his-face's text GUI routines for that stuff though, eh???
11. Re: Markup Language
- Posted by Ad Rienks <Ad_Rienks at COMPUSERVE.COM> Sep 19, 1997
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>> >Have you considered putting the list, text boxes etc. into >procedures or >functions? >That way you can call such a routine >in one simple line, without having t=3D >o >write a whole new >language. >That's part of it. I guess I should use what's-his-face's text >GUI routines for that stuff though, eh??? = Not directly necessary, although David Cuny's (that's the one you mean, I= think) routines are nice. But you can also write your own simple text bo= x and input routines. IMO you don't have to use fancy looking screens etc. = in business applications. I can provide you with some of these routines, if you like. Sincerely, Ad Rienks email Ad_Rienks at compuserve.com writing at 20:25 , = on vrijdag 19 september 1997 Using EMail Assist for WinCIM