1. Cryptography
- Posted by mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
Jan 10, 2002
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I read somewhere that you may not export "strong" cryptographic products . Why ?
I recently made a program that is used to
hold secret data for the user . I got complaints about my program not being very
secret at all . In fact , it was a breeze to
veiw the information . Now I want to use strong cryptography but i`m not sure if
it is legal . So , what sould I do ? And I
dont see why it would be illegal . Is the government scared they cant see what
you are doing . But that means they allready
know what we are doing .... Scarry stuff . Well , if there is any way you can
help me , i`ll be very happy .
Ferdinand
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<DIV>I read somewhere that you may not export "strong" cryptographic
products . Why ? I recently made a program that is used to hold secret
data for the user . I got complaints about my program not being
very secret at all . In fact , it was a breeze to veiw the information .
Now I want to use strong cryptography but i`m not sure if it is legal . So ,
what sould I do ? And I dont see why it would be illegal . Is the government
scared they cant see what you are doing . But that means they allready know what
we are doing .... Scarry stuff . Well , if there is any way you can help me ,
i`ll be very happy .</DIV>
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2. Re: Cryptography
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The reason the Government wont allow such things is because of what took place
in Pearl-Harbor.. They must have a way to decipher transmissions when they feel
like
it's neccasary. Many people died at Pearl-Harbor because the messages that were
encrypted
, encoded were not broken until it was too late.
This just brings back the idea that we as a society are oppressed in many ways.
Try using a HASH routine, they arent concidered encryption methods but are
reasonably
strong. One such algorythm is SHA1, Davi Tassinari de Figueiredo has one such
implementation
on his web-site that can be used fairly easy with Euphoria.
http://davitf.n3.net/
Euman
----- Original Message -----
From: mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
To: EUforum
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:02 AM
Subject: Cryptography
I read somewhere that you may not export "strong" cryptographic products . Why
? I recently made a program that is used
to hold secret data for the user . I got complaints about my program not being
very secret at all . In fact , it was a breeze
to veiw the information . Now I want to use strong cryptography but i`m not sure
if it is legal . So , what sould I do ? And
I dont see why it would be illegal . Is the government scared they cant see what
you are doing . But that means they allready
know what we are doing .... Scarry stuff . Well , if there is any way you can
help me , i`ll be very happy .
Ferdinand
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The reason the Government wont allow such things is
because of what took place</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in Pearl-Harbor.. They must have a way to decipher
transmissions when they feel like</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it's neccasary. Many people died at Pearl-Harbor
because the messages that were encrypted</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>, encoded were not broken until it was too
late.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This just brings back the idea that we as a society
are oppressed in many ways.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Try using a HASH routine, they arent concidered
encryption methods but are reasonably</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>strong. One such algorythm is SHA1, Davi Tassinari
de Figueiredo has one such implementation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>on his web-site that can be used fairly easy with
Euphoria. <A href="http://davitf.n3.net/">http://davitf.n3.net/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Euman</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 06, 2000 9:02
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Cryptography</DIV>
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<DIV>I read somewhere that you may not export "strong" cryptographic
products . Why ? I recently made a program that is used to hold secret
data for the user . I got complaints about my program not being
very secret at all . In fact , it was a breeze to veiw the information .
Now I want to use strong cryptography but i`m not sure if it is legal . So ,
what sould I do ? And I dont see why it would be illegal . Is the government
scared they cant see what you are doing . But that means they allready know
what we are doing .... Scarry stuff . Well , if there is any way you can help
me , i`ll be very happy .</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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3. Re: Cryptography
- Posted by jbrown1050 at yahoo.com
Jan 10, 2002
On 0, mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA wrote:
>
> I read somewhere that you may not export "strong"
cryptographic products . =
> Why ? I recently made a program that is used to
> hold secret data for the user . I got complaints
about my program not being=
> very secret at all . In fact , it was a breeze to
> veiw the information . Now I want to use strong
cryptography but i`m not su=
> re if it is legal . So , what sould I do ? And I
> dont see why it would be illegal . Is the government
scared they cant see w=
> hat you are doing . But that means they allready
> know what we are doing .... Scarry stuff . Well , if
there is any way you c=
> an help me , i`ll be very happy .
>
> Ferdinand
>
It is illegal to export "strong" cryptographic
products out of the US,
i believe. The US Gov places high-level encryption in
the same catergory as
nuclear arms, for some paranoid reason. You should be
fine unless your program
is exported out of country, although im not 100% sure.
:(
jbrown
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4. Re: Cryptography
Ferdinand,
>From your email address, it appears (?) that you're not in the U.S. So if
you're not *in* the U.S., then I don't think you have to concern yourself
about U.S. laws prohibiting exporting anything *out* of the U.S.
Dan Moyer
----- Original Message -----
From: <mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Cryptography
I read somewhere that you may not export "strong" cryptographic products .
Why ? I recently made a program that is used to
hold secret data for the user . I got complaints about my program not being
very secret at all . In fact , it was a breeze to
veiw the information . Now I want to use strong cryptography but i`m not
sure if it is legal . So , what sould I do ? And I
dont see why it would be illegal . Is the government scared they cant see
what you are doing . But that means they allready
know what we are doing .... Scarry stuff . Well , if there is any way you
can help me , i`ll be very happy .
Ferdinand
5. Re: Cryptography
Euman writes:
>The reason the Government wont allow such things is because of what took place
>in Pearl-Harbor.. They must have a way to decipher transmissions when they feel
>like
>it's neccasary. Many people died at Pearl-Harbor because the messages that were
>encrypted
>, encoded were not broken until it was too late.
What if they use crypthography from foreign country ?
Aparently it haven't helped to prevent the 9.11. disaster...
1984 is coming ...
Am I paranoid ? Luckily I don't live in the U.S
Martin
