1. HELP - listserver problems

At 07:51 AM 7/8/97 EDT, you wrote:
>I seem to be having a problem with the mail list.  I get my mail Digest,
>and I'm seeing responses to letters I've never seen.  I also sent out a
>couple of mailings that I don't think ever made it to the list. I got the
>automatic response telling me it was sent but I never saw it in the
>digest I received and I have in the past.

Yes that is happening to me too.
I also notice that the datestamp of messages is that of the original
sender, not
the date/time of the listserver.  The most recent message from RALF
has a 3:45 PM (today) date stamp, and it is only 8:15 AM HERE.
No way to sort that out.

IMO, there are far too many personal messages, and many messages are far
too long (excessive quoting, usually).  Over the weekend there were over a
hundred.

This group should get on the Usenet system
really soon.   That would allow for selective reading and also keep the
messages
in threads and in posting order.

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2. Re: HELP - listserver problems

> Yes that is happening to me too.
> I also notice that the datestamp of messages is that of the original
> sender, not the date/time of the listserver.
        I do not think that the mail server does that..
        It is your ISP and Mail provider that do that..

        And about the time, that would be helped if the mail server changed
time stamps to it's own time.... or if we would all use a good mail
program and include location information in our configurarion (i
believe if everybody sets his/her configuration right, it should
work, but i haven't spend too much time on that)
        But yes, there is a time difference of i believe 7 hours between
Holland and the US.

> IMO, there are far too many personal messages, and many messages are far
> too long (excessive quoting, usually).  Over the weekend there were over a
> hundred.
>
> This group should get on the Usenet system
> really soon.   That would allow for selective reading and also keep the
> messages
> in threads and in posting order.
        Yep, but then it is hard to reply personal..
        And then Euphoria newsgroup has already got some messages that are
not about Euphoria at all, but are advertisement (SPAM, i believe
most call it)
        And you can not be sure that everybody recieves your message.
        (I mean your message header)
        I don't know exactly how it works, but i guess it doesn't keep all
the messages forever does it? A mail provider does...
        ANd you can choose (if you have a descent mail program) to only
download the headers... and then you can select the ones you want to
see.
        I am using Pegasus Mail, but if you are using Netscape Communicator
you won't even see a difference between you mail box or a newsgroup..
        So only the dates would be a good reason to use newsgroups....

Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen
nieuwen at xs4all.nl

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3. Re: HELP - listserver problems

Edmunds family wrote:
>
> This group should get on the Usenet system
> really soon.   That would allow for selective reading and also keep the
> messages
> in threads and in posting order.

Please don't!!!

Only 1 of the 7 news servers I have access to even carry smaller newsgroups
such as this one would be, and the one that does, only keeps messages about 8
hours, then deletes them.
You have to be quick to catch any meaningful messages at all,  but SPAM. is
plentiful!
If you want threaded messages, use Netscape as your mail reader.

Irv

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