1. topica baddddddddd!!!
- Posted by akusaya at gmx.net
Mar 25, 2004
The advertisement is even worse than yahoo groups!!
Let's move again to yahoogroups!
or even better groups.or.id (free)
an mailing list server like yahoogroups with no ads, flexible options
(much more than yahoo's), add member without restriction (can be as
many as you want), etc but no attachments allowed.
2. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
I don't like receiving ads that encourage smoking. Filtering the ads out
is probably not that hard. If you encounter a line with 59
equal-characters (perhaps be more flexible: at least 50 times '='), just
find the next line like that. If there are only a few lines in between (<
10 lines?), delete them (and the 2 ===-lines).
>
> ===========================================================
> Menthol Smokers Only! Click on the link below and
> register to receive up to $50 in savings from one of
> America's leading menthol brands.
> http://click.topica.com/caab4S3b1dd66b6Mee2a/ Lorillard
> ===========================================================
>
--
Tommy Carlier
tommy online: http://users.pandora.be/tommycarlier
3. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
aku saya wrote:
> The advertisement is even worse than yahoo groups!!
Yes, it's bad, and (as you guessed) the ads are inserted
after ListFilter, so I can't stop them. Anyway, it would
probably be a violation of my agreement with Topica
to remove them. I will at least try to remove ads from
quoted material in replies.
> Let's move again to yahoogroups!
We were never there.
> or even better groups.or.id (free)
> an mailing list server like yahoogroups with no ads, flexible options
> (much more than yahoo's), add member without restriction (can be as
> many as you want), etc but no attachments allowed.
Sorry, but it doesn't look like a very English-friendly site.
EUforum generates several thousand e-mails per day.
There aren't many ISPs that are comfortable with that,
unless you pay big bucks or allow them to insert ads.
We could easily set up a "message board" written in CGI/Euphoria.
There would be no e-mail involved, but it would be totally
under our control, with no ads anywhere, and messages would
appear immediately without delay. They would be recorded
in the message archive as usual. The messages could still
be pre-scanned by ListFilter to weed out spammers and other
trouble makers. If necessary we could require logging in with a
password (kept in a cookie for convenience like with the
User Contribution system.)
The downside is you wouldn't get the list delivered
to your convenient e-mail client, and people might not bother
to visit the RDS site very often to check for new messages.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
4. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
Native CGI/Euphoria Message Board - pros and cons
--- Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com> wrote:
Pro
1. no ads
2. instant posting
3. total control
Con
1. messages not delivered to email address
I vote to ditch Topica. The sooner the better.
>
> [ Topica Ad Deleted ]
>
> We could easily set up a "message board" written in
> CGI/Euphoria.
> There would be no e-mail involved, but it would be
> totally
> under our control, with no ads anywhere, and
> messages would
> appear immediately without delay. They would be
> recorded
> in the message archive as usual. The messages could
> still
> be pre-scanned by ListFilter to weed out spammers
> and other
> trouble makers. If necessary we could require
> logging in with a
> password (kept in a cookie for convenience like with
> the
> User Contribution system.)
>
> The downside is you wouldn't get the list delivered
> to your convenient e-mail client, and people might
> not bother
> to visit the RDS site very often to check for new
> messages.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Craig
> Rapid Deployment Software
> http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
>
>
>
> samples and special offers our members enjoy each
> and
> everyday.
> http://click.topica.com/caab3ozb1dd66b2l4Ref/ Ivo
> Interactive
>
>
>
>
> For Topica's complete suite of email marketing
> solutions visit:
> http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER
>
>
=====
Kenneth Rhodes
100% MicroSoft Free!
5. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
Ken Rhodes wrote:
>Native CGI/Euphoria Message Board - pros and cons
>--- Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com> wrote:
>
>Pro
>1. no ads
>2. instant posting
>3. total control
>
>Con
>1. messages not delivered to email address
>
>
this doesn't have to be true. we just need to find an ISP who will
understand what we're doing with the huge amounts of email. :) And, that
being the case, there will be no cons! (Will we still be able to post
via email? I expect we could...)
well, there is one other con: development, maintenance, updates... :)
6. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
We don't need attachments if we post source code.
if anyone needs to send an attached file then it can be in that
64 code stuff that is still text.
Bernie
7. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
- Posted by kbochert at copper.net
Mar 25, 2004
On 25 Mar 2004 at 13:22, Robert Craig wrote:
>
>
> aku saya wrote:
> > The advertisement is even worse than yahoo groups!!
>
Am I the only one who thinks it odd that Lorillard is supporting
this list and we are not?
Its a big world out there -- surely there is someone we can
freeload off 
Karl Bochert
8. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
On Thursday 25 March 2004 02:50 pm, kbochert at copper.net wrote:
> Am I the only one who thinks it odd that Lorillard is supporting
> this list and we are not?
>
> Its a big world out there -- surely there is someone we can
> freeload off
>
> Karl Bochert
Perhaps Lorrilard? hehehe, My whole family works for them..
Greensboro, NC
Euman
9. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
Wow. Topica magically re-subscribes me for the first time in three
months, and this is the thread.
You can guess what my vote is.
-- David Cuny
10. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
On 25 Mar 2004, at 14:33, Bernie Ryan wrote:
>
> http://click.topica.com/caab3ozb1dd66b6Zgfea/ Ivo Interactive
>
>
> We don't need attachments if we post source code.
> if anyone needs to send an attached file then it can be in that
> 64 code stuff that is still text.
I delete attachments that are not readable as text, saves getting viruses and
trojans. I vote against topica again, and against web-based bulletin boards.
The web boards take forever to keep up with the threads, make for huge
pages, and someone will eventually hack the board (see Karl's web board).
Kat
11. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:24:28 -0800, David Cuny <dcuny at LANSET.COM>
wrote:
>Wow. Topica magically re-subscribes me for the first time in three
>months, and this is the thread.
>
>You can guess what my vote is.
Guess no-one ever taught them how rude it is to top-post.
It is pretty universally hated, either they cannot see this or they
are incredibly desperate for money. It would not surprise me if this
invites (not by my hand) a succession of ddos attacks in protest.
There is a strong possibility in my mind that Topica may not be around
by summer, and we should definitely make plans for that event.
Read the signs, folks.
Pete
PS That dutch crowd left alt.lang.euphoria long ago. I just posted and
it still seems to work for me.
12. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
Jonas Temple wrote:
> Unless I don't understand something, I have personally set up Euphoria
> programs to use sendmail on Linux to send email out to multiple
> recipients. Not a big deal.
Yes, I've used sendmail or equivalent in several programs now.
Sending a message is easy. Sending several thousand messages/day
makes ISP's very nervous, especially in these days of
SPAM black-lists. Even if just RapidEuphoria.com got black-listed
it would be bad news.
> I also think that a community developed mailing list would be a great
> testament to the vitality of the language AND the people using the
> language.
Initially I'll work on it, then I'll turn it over to Junko.
Maybe we can have modules that others can help us with.
We'll try to do something really quick and simple to
start with, then we'll add improvements as we go along.
> Rob, is euphoria.com hosted on a machine under your control or are you
> using a provider? If it's your machine we could develop whatever we
> wanted.
I'm using a provider. I can do what I need to do,
but the volume of mail (and handling all the bounces etc.)
would be a problem. My provider isn't very reliable
for e-mail anyway.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
13. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
I noticed there are people that prefer message boards, because the
messages are sorted in categories, and there are people that prefer
mailing lists, because of the speed and the fact that e-mailing is a lot
easier than logging in, going to the appropriate thread and posting.
What if we could make a mailing list that sorts the messages in
categories? Each category has an e-mail address, and the
filter-capabilities of YOUR e-mail client can deal with incoming mails: if
there are categories you're not interested in, you make a filter that
deletes messages that come from the e-mail address of those categories.
The categories you are interested in can also be filtered: each category
has a folder and you make filters to move messages to the appropriate
folder.
Example:
send message -> win32 at eumailing.com -> ... -> client filter -> Win32 folder
--
Tommy Carlier
tommy online: http://users.pandora.be/tommycarlier
14. Re: topica baddddddddd!!!
On Friday 26 March 2004 02:03 am, Tommy Carlier wrote:
> I noticed there are people that prefer message boards, because the
> messages are sorted in categories, and there are people that prefer
> mailing lists, because of the speed and the fact that e-mailing is a lot
> easier than logging in, going to the appropriate thread and posting.
>
> What if we could make a mailing list that sorts the messages in
> categories? Each category has an e-mail address, and the
> filter-capabilities of YOUR e-mail client can deal with incoming mails: if
> there are categories you're not interested in, you make a filter that
> deletes messages that come from the e-mail address of those categories.
> The categories you are interested in can also be filtered: each category
> has a folder and you make filters to move messages to the appropriate
> folder.
>
> Example:
> send message -> win32 at eumailing.com -> ... -> client filter -> Win32 folder
Tommy,
No new ideas would ever come up and how would newbies get help?
Euman
