1. The sad truth

> Your message dated Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:16:01 +0200 with subject "Re: Help
> with "facing" routine" has been successfully distributed to the EUPHORIA
> list (223 recipients).

I wonder why so many has left the list (late in May it was about 250, IIRC)

Einar (Well, perhaps it's because of messages like this, with no meaning...)

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2. Re: The sad truth

Einar Mogen writes:
>> Your message dated Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:16:01 +0200
>> with subject "Re: Help with "facing" routine" has been
>> successfully distributed to the EUPHORIA list (223 recipients).
> I wonder why so many has left the list (late in May it was
> about 250, IIRC)

Late in May I announced that the mailing list was
now viewable (and postable) from the Web.
Many "lurkers" are now viewing it that way,
instead of getting e-mail messages. They are no longer
counted as "recipients". I assume that's where most
of them have gone.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software

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3. The sad truth

Einar Mogen wrote:
|> Your message dated Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:16:01 +0200 with subject "Re: He=
lp
|> with "facing" routine" has been successfully distributed to the EUPHOR=
IA
|> list (223 recipients).

>I wonder why so many has left the list (late in May it was about 250,
IIRC)

>Einar (Well, perhaps it's because of messages like this, with no
meaning...)

Well, maybe Einar, it is not what you think (that people are running away=

because of things they don't like). A possible explanation can be the
holidays. I myself have also contemplated to unsubscribe for the time of =
my
being away from home.
I'm not, because the time of some 50 messages a day seems to be behind us=
,
and I think I can live with 10-20 a day. So if we make good and sparse us=
e
of the list, noone's mailbox will get flooded.

TIA

Ad

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4. Re: The sad truth

Ad Rienks writes:
> I myself have also contemplated to unsubscribe for
> the time of my being away from home.
> I'm not, because the time of some 50 messages a day
> seems to be behind us, and I think I can live with 10-20 a day.
> So if we make good and sparse use of the list,
> no one's mailbox will get flooded.

I just retrieved LOG9806 (June) and posted it to "The Mailing List"
page at the RDS site. It's almost 3 times the size of
LOG9805 (May). No doubt the heavy message traffic has
scared off a few people.

If you are going on vacation, you can send the message:

      SET EUPHORIA DIGESTS
to:
      LISTSERV at MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU

When you get back, send the command:

      SET EUPHORIA NODIGESTS

Put these commands in the body of the message,
*not* the subject line.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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5. The sad truth

>>>>>
No doubt the heavy message traffic has
scared off a few people.
<<<<<<

Maybe its because I check more often now (I'm on summer vacation), but it=
s
gotten a bit better.  At least, with the web interface, and the decreased=

number of pure subscribers, I don't think there's any need to use the
newsgroup anytime soon.

--Alan

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6. Re: The sad truth

Does anyone know if the digest recipients are counted in
the figure for the number of recipients.  I know that I had
thought about switching to the digest and in my opinion, (if digest
folk (-: are not counted) then that's probably where most of the
people disappeared to.  Mind you, I also remember getting a couple that said
"I cant believe... so I'm ending my connection to this listserver."
Or at least something like that.  I don't know.  It used to be
that there were flame wars (I think someone referred to it as
flame-wars-R-us).  It's good that we've managed to get along fairly
well for a while now.  Also, if the people on the digest are not
counted, I personally feel that they should, but that probably doesn't matter
much either.
                             With my two cents,
                             Robert McDougal


Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com

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7. Re: The sad truth

At 05:20 PM 7/1/98 +0200, Einar wrote:

>> Your message dated Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:16:01 +0200 with subject "Re: Help
>> with "facing" routine" has been successfully distributed to the EUPHORIA
>> list (223 recipients).
>
>I wonder why so many has left the list (late in May it was about 250, IIRC)
>
>Einar (Well, perhaps it's because of messages like this, with no meaning...)


I have been a semi active member of this list for over two years now
and the trend I have noticed is a massive increase in in the volume
of messages combined with a large decrease in the amount of useful
and genuine programming discussion that goes on. Many people seem
to think this is some kind of chat room or smat-alec competition. I am still
convinced that this list is one of the best programming rescources I
have ever come accross, but the rubbish to info ratio is startingto blow
out at an alarming rate.

Has anybody else noticed the decrease in input from many of the more
accomplished programmers? I for one don't blame them, there hasn't
been much worth commenting on lately. I include this message I am now
writing in the 'rubbish' category (..messages like this, with no meaning ...)
and I hope nobody replys to this. I do however hope that people read
and consider this message.

If you have a programming question; please ask it. If you have an answer
to a question; please post it. If you have a good idea, or even a really good
joke; let us know. If you have a non-critical bug report, tell Rob or the
person whose work it is in, I'm sure they will be grateful. If you want to
have an intricate ecoteric discussion about a particular subject, find an
appropriate chat room or do it by private mail. If you want to spout off
and kid yourself that you're really smart; get a really stupid girl/boy-friend
- nobody else cares.

Sorry to add yet another non-programming post. I hope this is the last.

Graeme.
(arrived in Townsville and paying long-distance phone rates to download this)

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