1. For Robert Craig

first, sorry for my bad english.

euphoria is not very popular and no many euphoria programmers. there
are very small number of commercial programs or free program that are
popular written in euphoria. because people do not want distribute
their program written in euphoria because it is interpreted and user
will get problem executing the programs because user have to execute
"c:\program files\my program\exw.exe c:\program files\my
program\something.exw" in example for windows once the program is
installed. although the command above can be executed easily by
making a shortcut in start menu using the program's installer, but
the program's installer can not easily distributed because it is not
an .exe file and user must do the command line similar like above.

so, maybe you should give unregistered user *a* program (not two or
more) that  1. pack all include file *and* 2. shroud *and* 3. encrypt
*and* 4. bind to an .exe file. just that, no any other option such as
just do number 1, 2, dan 3 without 4, etc. just convert .ex, .exw, or
.exu file to a single exe and hide the source code. you can get
profit by selling the registered version with 300-lines limit
removed, profile, shroud, etc and the translator.

with distributable exe file using euphoria i believe euphoria
will be very popular and better than any other language.

thanks very much for your attention and i hope you agree.

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2. Re: For Robert Craig

First, welcome to Euphoria.  I can understand your English, so it's definitely
not bad.  Many people on this list speak English as other than a native language,
so don't let that distract you from contributing.  For my company, we have
several programs we use that are written in Euphoria.  As the main programmer, I
find the interpreted program to be a major benefit in quickly making fixes; and
as long as the users only have to double-click the icon, they don't know the
difference.

If I were going to distribute these programs outside the company, I would have 2
options:  I could use the bind.ex utility included with the registered version of
Euphoria, or I could use one of the Euphoria to C translators and compile the
program into an EXE.  For more information on registering Euphoria and on the
translators, go to www.rapideuphoria.com.

Michael J. Sabal

>>> Aku <aku at INBOX.AS> 11/14/00 08:29AM >>>
first, sorry for my bad english.

euphoria is not very popular and no many euphoria programmers. there
are very small number of commercial programs or free program that are
popular written in euphoria. because people do not want distribute
their program written in euphoria because it is interpreted and user
will get problem executing the programs because user have to execute
"c:\program files\my program\exw.exe c:\program files\my
program\something.exw" in example for windows once the program is
installed. although the command above can be executed easily by
making a shortcut in start menu using the program's installer, but
the program's installer can not easily distributed because it is not
an .exe file and user must do the command line similar like above.

so, maybe you should give unregistered user *a* program (not two or
more) that  1. pack all include file *and* 2. shroud *and* 3. encrypt
*and* 4. bind to an .exe file. just that, no any other option such as
just do number 1, 2, dan 3 without 4, etc. just convert .ex, .exw, or
.exu file to a single exe and hide the source code. you can get
profit by selling the registered version with 300-lines limit
removed, profile, shroud, etc and the translator.

with distributable exe file using euphoria i believe euphoria
will be very popular and better than any other language.

thanks very much for your attention and i hope you agree.

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3. Re: For Robert Craig

Aku writes:
> user will get problem executing the programs because
> user have to execute
> "c:\program files\my program\exw.exe
>           c:\programfiles\myprogram\something.exw"

In addition to what Mike Sabal said,
I would add that you can make a .bat file
that executes the Euphoria program.
The user can double-click on it.
If the .exw file and any necessary .e files
are all together in one directory somewhere,
it will work.

> with distributable exe file using euphoria
> i believe euphoria will be very popular and
> better than any other language.

My philosophy is to give beginners everything
they need for free, while holding back a few features
that will appeal to those who are into Euphoria fairly
deeply, and are finding a good use for it.

If someone is at the stage where he is not only
distributing his programs to other people, but he
wants to shroud his code, and he wants the convenience of
distributing a single .exe, then he is probably
someone I should target with my registration incentives.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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4. Re: For Robert Craig

I am very happy with the translator, but unfortunately the translator
can not translate correctly, especially programs with win32lib and
database.e. I hope there will be a release that can translate without
any error soon.
______________________________________________________________________
S> First, welcome to Euphoria.  I can understand your English, so it's
definitely not bad.  Many people on this list speak English as other than a
native language, so don't let that distract you from
S> contributing.  For my company, we have several programs we use that are
written in Euphoria.  As the main programmer, I find the interpreted program to
be a major benefit in quickly making fixes;
S> and as long as the users only have to double-click the icon, they don't know
the difference.

S> If I were going to distribute these programs outside the company, I would
have 2 options:  I could use the bind.ex utility included with the registered
version of Euphoria, or I could use one of
S> the Euphoria to C translators and compile the program into an EXE.  For more
information on registering Euphoria and on the translators, go to
www.rapideuphoria.com.

S> Michael J. Sabal

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5. Re: For Robert Craig

Aku writes:
> I hope there will be a release that can translate
> without any error soon.

I'm working on it...

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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