1. Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

dirk dekker wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> thanks for your answer,
> I do not understand the items. I just downloaded the samples and expected to
> have a
> working program.
> But that's not true. I walked exactly the instructions but nevertheless : no
> success.
> Maybe you know what I am doing wrong with the isntallation
> of some examples. So I noticed that to start a program I have to open a
> DOS-box. Am
> I right?
> Regards, Dirk

Firstly, learn that it is important to stay in a thread, and not to destroy
our other threads. The thread where your problem is discussed is "problems
with install". Let the other threads alone!!

Secondly, learn to quote: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Thirdly, it doesn't make sense that you write any Euphoria program, when
you are not sure whether Euphoria is properly installed on your system.
Anything regarding the installation is explained comprehensive in the docs.
When you encounter problems, ask _specific_ questions.

Regards,
   Juergen

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2. Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

Stay in the thread "problems with install", and let the other threads
alone! Learn to quote:
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Juergen

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3. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

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----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- 
Van: "Juergen Luethje" <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
Aan: <EUforum at topica.com>
Verzonden: vrijdag 15 oktober 2004 20:28
Onderwerp: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with
'if'.....)


|
|
| posted by: Juergen Luethje <j.lue at gmx.de>
|
| Stay in the thread "problems with install", and let the other threads
| alone! Learn to quote:
| http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
|
| Juergen
|
|
|
|
|

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4. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

Hi Juergen, maybe I do it all wrong but this is in the quote, is't it?
Why i got errors when starting a example? The meaning of an example is that it
works!
special when you are a beginner, like me.
See the other answers to my question and maybe you know what is the problem.
thanks anyway for answering.
Regards, Dirk

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5. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

irv mullins wrote:

> dirk dekker wrote:
>>
>> My excuses for this slip of the pen.
>> It must be eupHora.
>> (the installation on a XP is done without any typing, so it must me with a
>> "H".)
>>
>> So ,once again:
>> I did this already :XP-prof SP1 dutch
>> Environments are : EUDIR d:\EUPHORA ;  PATH d:\EUPHORA\BIN;
>>
>> or is EUINC something different ?
>
> Yes. it should be EUPHORIA, not EUPHORA.
>
> Here's a copy of my autoexec.bat. Note that I have Euphoria installed
> on the C: drive, instead of D:
>
> SET EUDIR=C:\EUPHORIA
> SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\EUPHORIA\BIN
> SET EUINC=C:\euphoria\include\gtk2;C:\euphoria\win32lib\include


Irv (and all),

please don't reply to him in this thread. Or at least change the subject
accordingly. If anyone writes anything in any thread, this forum will
become almost unreadable.

Regards,
   Juergen

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6. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

Dirk Dekker wrote:

> Hi, where I do find the latest  Win32lib
> Dirk Dekker

THIS IS THE WRONG THREAD!
STOP THIS NONSENSE IMMEDIATELY!
THE VERY FIRST THING THAT YOU HAVE TO LEARN IS, HOW NOT TO GET ON OUR
NERVES!!


> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- 
> Van: "irv mullins" <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
> Aan: <EUforum at topica.com>
> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 oktober 2004 20:32
> Onderwerp: Re: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....
>
>
>| posted by: irv mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
>|
>| dirk dekker wrote:
>|>
>|> Hi ,
>|> when I start the example : web browser.exw; the result is an ex.err
>|> See this below:
>|>
>|> d:\EUPHORIA\include\win32lib.ew:7224 in function validId()
>|> ... called from d:\EUPHORIA\include\win32lib.ew:10956 in function
> getSize()
>|> ... called from d:\EUPHORIA\include\win32lib.ew:11190 in function
> getExtent()
>|
>| I think you are using an old version of Win32Lib. The line numbers you
>| refer to here are not in the functions named, at least not in the latest
>| version (60.6) of Win32lib.
>|
>| Irv

Regards,
   Juergen

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7. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

On 15 Oct 2004, at 11:56, dirk dekker wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: dirk dekker <dirk at induxion.nl>
> 
> Hi Juergen, maybe I do it all wrong but this is in the quote, is't it?
> Why i got errors when starting a example? The meaning of an example is that it
> works! special when you are a beginner, like me.

<snip>

And such a good example of why people should include ALL the required 
files in a .zip when submitting for the archives. 

Kat

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8. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

dirk dekker wrote:

> Hi Juergen, maybe I do it all wrong but this is in the quote, is't it?

No, there is no quote in your post. I bet you did _not_ read _carefully_
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>, although I repeatedly
told you to do so.

You _must_ learn, that even in electronic communication, there are some
rules. Also, you have to learn to _read_ _carefully_, for instance the
dfference between "eupora","euphora" and "euphoria". Otherwise you will
never be able to _write_ anything meaningful, whether it is a program or
something else.

> Why i got errors when starting a example? The meaning of an example is that it
> works!
> special when you are a beginner, like me.
> See the other answers to my question and maybe you know what is the problem.
> thanks anyway for answering.

The problem is obviously, that you did not read/follow the installation
instructions carefully. And yes: EUINC is not the same as EUDIR.
BTW: How old are you?

Regards,
   Juergen

-- 
A: Because it considerably reduces the readability of the text.
Q: Why?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is annoying in e-mail and news?

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9. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

I make my appologizes for this misbehaviour and will read the instructions
carefully before making a question in this board.
I really can;t find in the instructions how to start a new thread. 
My age is 56 Male Dutch maried, 2 kids and hard working ( 08:00 - 22:00 ) on new
idea's in IT-business.
I appreciate your patience!

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10. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

dirk dekker wrote:

> I make my appologizes for this misbehaviour and will read the instructions
> carefully
> before making a question in this board.

dirk, don't fret about it. generally, there's not enough traffic here
to warrant strict adherance to all the posting rules. some people just
go crazy for silly reasons.

if you haven't already, read some of the tutorials that have gone up
recently. one is at my site, http://www.cklester.com/books/jubilation/.
Derek Parnell (manager of Win32Lib) has one at
http://www.users.bigpond.com/ddparnell/ProgrammingTutorial/default.htm.
Chris Burch's includes some installation info:
http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm

Here's a place for mentoring:
http://uboard.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=Pupils

And of course this forum is populated by many friendly and willingly
helpful people. Just ask.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of EUPHORIA."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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11. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

Hi Dirk

You look like a newby to me - looks like you're trying to run before you can
walk. There was a recent discussion here re helping newbies - try these.

http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm
http://www.users.bigpond.com/ddparnell/ProgrammingTutorial/default.htm
http://www.cklester.com/books/jubilation
http://uboard.proboards32.com/

Chris

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12. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

dirk dekker wrote:
> 
> I make my appologizes for this misbehaviour and will read the instructions
> carefully
> before making a question in this board.
> I really can;t find in the instructions how to start a new thread. 
> My age is 56 Male Dutch maried, 2 kids and hard working ( 08:00 - 22:00 ) on
> new idea's
> in IT-business.
> I appreciate your patience!

Don't worry about it. Other than one or two 'posting police', most of us 
here are just interested in the questions and answers. I, for one, don't 
have any problem with posts which are 'off topic', if I did, I would not 
read 90% of the messages here, because they invariably drift off-topic 
rather quickly. I can read fast enough that it is no great imposition 
if I must read the entire post. 

Now, as for Euphoria, I use it, and have for 5 or 6 years, in commercial 
work, when it fits the task. Bear in mind, however, that when it comes 
to Windows (or xWindows or GTK), those libraries are NOT supported by 
the creator of Euphoria, they're all contributed by users. Therefore, 
there is no real control over compatibility, versioning, etc. other 
than what those contributors choose to exercise. So you may expect to 
find things which do not work together. It's good to ask on this 
list about such things. 

You will also understand that, since this is a tool for programmers, 
a certain level of general computer expertise is assumed. And bear 
in mind that many of the people on this list have installed Euphoria 
numerous times (I have done perhaps 50 installs) and we know from 
experience that the basic setup does work, and is quite simple. 
So perhaps you can understand why some might be dubious when someone 
says they followed the directions but it doesn't work. 

Regards,
Irv

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13. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

Juergen Luethje wrote:

[snipped a whole lot of angst]

Hi Juergen, 
may I kindly suggest that you count to ten, take a few deep breaths, 
go for a jog, walk the dog, have a cup of good coffee, etc....

Maybe it would be better to help new comers to learn rather than come down 
all heavy on them for not following the un-enforcible 'rules' of good 
usenet ettiquette.

I'm not trying to be critical, but suggesting that a bit more tolerance
might be more useful in the long run. 

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia

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14. Re: Problems with install (was: Does 'seek' have to used with 'if'.....)

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:55:45 -0700, cklester <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
wrote:

>dirk, don't fret about it. generally, there's not enough traffic here
>to warrant strict adherance to all the posting rules. some people just
>go crazy for silly reasons.
>
While I believe there should always be gentle prodding in the right
direction of usenet etiquette, it is only polite after all, I agree
that, tonight, a handful appear to have gone psychotic over it.

Regards,
Pete

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