1. simple spanish - english dictionary

does anybody have a free simple spanish - english dictionary? 
in database format? (i'll take it in any format i can get it)
i'm developing a simple flash card system for a beginner's spanish class.
it doesn't need to have hundreds of thousands of entries, just a simple one
to begin with. i googled and got millions of hits. thanks!

Yours, OtterDad

Don't sweat it -- it's not real life. It's only ones and zeroes. Gene Spafford

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2. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

On 6 Oct 2004, at 12:22, OtterDad wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: OtterDad <otter at full-moon.com>
> 
> does anybody have a free simple spanish - english dictionary? 
> in database format? (i'll take it in any format i can get it)
> i'm developing a simple flash card system for a beginner's spanish class.
> it doesn't need to have hundreds of thousands of entries, just a simple one to
> begin with. i googled and got millions of hits. thanks!

If you got it on google, you still need one? Tiggr has 3 spanish<=>english 
dictionaries, 6 megabytes total.

They are of the forms:
ropa = clothes, clothing
ropa de caballeros = menswear
ropa de cama = bedding, bedclothes

and 
madhouse
<spa= <N=CASA DE LOCOS;  MANICOMIO;  LOQUERA>>
madly
<spa= <ADV=LOCAMENTE;  FURIOSAMENTE;  COMO UN LOCO;  CON 
RABIA>>

and
overstate
 <spa=exagerar  | overstate | >
overstated
 <spa=exagerado | exagerada | exagerados | exageradas | exagerado | 
exagerada | exagerados | exageradas | overstated | >
(strangely, this last one is the biggest, but is the most sparse)

Does anyone know, since i mined them from copyrighted pages for my own 
use, can i give them away? I don't have the pages, and i assume the 
language isn't copyrighted, but this is sorta fuzzy to me.

Kat

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3. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:22:27 -0700
OtterDad <guest at RapidEuphoria.com> wrote:

>
>
> posted by: OtterDad <otter at full-moon.com>
>
> does anybody have a free simple spanish - english dictionary?
> in database format? (i'll take it in any format i can get it)
> i'm developing a simple flash card system for a beginner's spanish class.=

> it doesn't need to have hundreds of thousands of entries, just a simple o=
ne
> to begin with. i googled and got millions of hits. thanks!
>
> Yours, OtterDad
>
> Don't sweat it -- it's not real life. It's only ones and zeroes. Gene Spa=
fford

Take a look at this files: http://www.geocities.com/getverba/spdata.2003-01=
-03.zip

They're part of this program: http://www.geocities.com/getverba/verba.html

You've more information there and some links.

Good luck,
	Guillermo Bonveh=ED

PS: If you need any help with spanish I'll be glad to help you :)

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4. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

Kat wrote:
> 
> Tiggr has 3 spanish<=>english dictionaries, 6 megabytes total.

Can Tiggr do a grammatical translation (as opposed to word-for-word)?
You know that translator they have at altavista.com? It does a
seemingly decent job at that. Just curious if you gave Tiggr the ability
to "speak" Espanol.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of EUPHORIA."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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5. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

On 6 Oct 2004, at 13:51, cklester wrote:

>
>
> posted by: cklester <cklester at yahoo.com>
>
> Kat wrote:
> >=20
> > Tiggr has 3 spanish<=>english dictionaries, 6 megabytes total.
>
> Can Tiggr do a grammatical translation (as opposed to word-for-word)?
> You know that translator they have at altavista.com? It does a
> seemingly decent job at that. Just curious if you gave Tiggr the ability
> to "speak" Espanol.

The short answer is no, she doesn't. The *entire* block of translation 
code=
  is=20
deleted from her, it's not loaded, not called, not executed. People 
abused =
it.=20
They wanted porn, they wanted porn that i didn't want in my irc logs 
or on =
my
screen. After that, and no interest from here, i quit all work on 
languages=
. I=20
still have the 2+ gigabytes of language data mined up till then, 
translatio=
ns,=20
semantic, and syntactic. I stopped work on the Metaphone and Soundex
too, i had both done in Eu, plus one i wrote that worked better than 
either=
,
you could specify options.

I know of Altavista, i had Tiggr plugged into Bablefish in the late 
1990's.=
  Lag=20
was horrible, especially translating (for instance) Italian to German 
thru=

Bablefish, which as you know, it doesn't do.

[19:13] <Fuzzness> !t e-s please do not type in capital letters
[19:28] <[Tiggr]> por favor hacer no tipo en may=FAsculas

How's that for lag?!? 15 minutes for Bablefish!!

Here's Spanish to German,, anyone know how correct it was?
<kat> !t s-g esto es un canal de la prueba para el BOT
<[Tiggr]> dieses ist eine F=FChrung des Tests f=FCr das BOT

<kat>  !translate g-i das Buch war dort
<[TiggrBot]> l=E0 le livre =E9tait

Things like this made me give up on Bablefish:
<kat> !translate e-f gulp
<[TiggrBot]> groupe d'octets
<kat> !t f-e groupe d'octets
<[TiggrBot]> group bytes

I suppose if i was interesting to anyone, i'd still be doing such work.

Kat

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6. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

Thanks to Kat et al for the resource links. 
just what i was looking for. (i'd still love Kat's 6 meg file)

Yours, OtterDad

Don't sweat it -- it's not real life. It's only ones and zeroes. Gene Spafford

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7. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

On 7 Oct 2004, at 9:19, OtterDad wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: OtterDad <otter at full-moon.com>
> 
> Thanks to Kat et al for the resource links. 
> just what i was looking for. (i'd still love Kat's 6 meg file)

Considering how poorly i communicate, i don't think it would help you. It's not 
"a" file, it's three, each in a slightly different form (i quit working on them
4
years ago when no one else was interested). I didn't know you wanted them. 
No one answered how legal it was for me to give them out.

I think my neighbor and i will be spending each other into bankruptcy, putting 
each other in jail repeatedly over a dog. I think the dog has no rights to be on
my property attacking me, and he thinks i have no right to defend myself. 
This is a game he will win, because it involves money and communication 
with southern usa rednecks, not fairness or established legal rights. I will be 
homeless again and even deeper into poverty, proving once more that 
education doesn't matter in life. Forget the flashcards, Otterdad, the kids will
go farther if they vote how their preacher says, hate all those not in their
cult,
chug cheap beer like a fish, solve all problems with violence, and get 
pregnant while 12 yrs old.

Kat

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8. Re: simple spanish - english dictionary

Kat wrote:

> No one answered how legal it was for me to give them out.

It's not illegal to hand out a text file of English<->Spanish words...
no matter where you get the source. Nobody can copyright that.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of EUPHORIA."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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