1. An apology
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To Kat and and any others that might have found my remarks either offensive or
"dunderheaded" in the RDBMS thread, please accept my apology. I was not
targeting anyone's ability to pay but the tendency for "clients" use their
consultants to avoid doing what is necessary.
Sorry if it came across as narrow minded and / or bigoted as many folks from
the the land of the free (that is spelled $$$$) and home of the morally
confused do --- that was not my intention. I won't go into my hard knock story
- needless to say I have one - that is not the point. The point was I deal with
the kind of people (every day) who want to make me work far harder than they or
I need to do and all because they DO NOT want to spend money that they have
plenty of and in the long run would be better advised tospend the money.
Joel H. Crook
"A Strong house is built upon a strong foundation. What are your beliefs built
upon?"
-- "The Book of Reminders"
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To Kat and and any others that might have found my remarks either
offensive or "dunderheaded" in the RDBMS thread, please
accept my apology. I was not targeting anyone's ability to pay but
the tendency for "clients" <b><i>use </b></i>their consultants
to avoid doing what is necessary. <br>
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Sorry if it came across as narrow minded and / or bigoted as many folks
from the the land of the free (that is spelled $$$$) and home of the
morally confused do --- that was not my intention. I won't go into my
hard knock story - needless to say I have one - that is not the point.
The point was I deal with the kind of people (every day) who want to make
me work far harder than they or I need to do and all because they DO NOT
want to spend money that they have plenty of and in the long run would be
better advised tospend the money. <br>
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Joel H. Crook<br>
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"<b><i>A Strong house is built upon a strong foundation. What are
your beliefs built upon</b></i>?"<br>
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2. Re: An apology
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From: "Joel Crook" <joel at MAIL.K-A.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:26 AM
Subject: An apology
> To Kat and and any others that might have found my remarks either
offensive or
> "dunderheaded" in the RDBMS thread, please accept my apology. I was not
> targeting anyone's ability to pay but the tendency for "clients" use their
> consultants to avoid doing what is necessary.
I accept, and i should prolly have not vented my recent anger on the whole
list. You have a good point, Joel, those that have money may not use it
wisely. But we have a wide range of people here from all over the world,
from many cultures and incomes, and i felt a few were suggesting too
strongly that Arlie jeopardize his position with the client by stressing the
hardware upgrades. I personally applaud him, it's not easy doing without,
especially when you can see others getting all they need, maybe as close as
across the street. It takes a swift mind to find workable solutions in that
environment.
I have been putting up web pages as i make them, i started just Wednesday
last week. I plan on putting up a Eu page with code, mostly the strings
things i stressed before, and internet apps. Rather than put an update to
the mirc-Eu zip file on the RDS page, i am thinking more of splitting the
files out and labeling them for specific tasks,, like the strings files, or
the mirc connector, or the web browser api i am toying with, or whatever.
Comments? And, Arlie, i'll have the code posted in a couple days that i use
to search the DB, it should port to dos easily, since it uses no windoze
calls. Right now it's tied up in other code.
Kat
3. An apology
I once read somewhere -- Reader's Digest, most likely -- that we should
always make our words soft and sweet, because we never know when we might
have to eat them. The current taste in my mouth would perhaps suggest that I
choose my words with a bit more care.
Our words and actions function as a mirror, reflecting upon who we are. Some
of us -- myself, for example -- are not nearly as tactful or intelligent as
we often like to think we are. If we are paying attention, our words and
actions keep us honest, and perhaps point the way to self-improvement. Or,
at the very least, self-restraint.
I have recently noticed that my words are at their most tactful when I do
not speak them. Or, to put it another way, I don't always know when to keep
my mouth shut. It's one thing to be told this occasionally by family or
friends, but it's quite another thing to realize this on my own.
Like any good mirror, our words and actions show us, not what we want to
see, but what we really need to see. The problem is that there's nothing
forcing us to look into that mirror on a regular basis. Sooner or later,
though, something happens which *forces* us to take that look -- and it is
at that moment when we have to decide if the face in the mirror is even
recognizable anymore.
I apologize to all on the list for my thoughtless comments and stupid
behavior. In the immediate future, at least, I will constrain myself to
Euphoria-related commentary only. Any other topics I will leave to my quote
file, which, from the evidence so far, seems to do a much better job of
saying what needs to be said.
Gabriel Boehme
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Rely on what someone does, not what they say they do.
Robert Fripp
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4. Re: An apology
>Subject: An apology
> Gabriel Boehme
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Gabriel, it takes a LOT to apologise publically, and it deserves a GREAT
deal of respect.
Cheers!
--Warren
5. Re: An apology
----- Original Message -----
From: Alyne & Warren <WCBaker at HOME.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: An apology
> >Subject: An apology
> > Gabriel Boehme
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> Gabriel, it takes a LOT to apologise publically, and it deserves a GREAT
> deal of respect.
Color me flabberghasted too!
Kat
