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2. Re: System Backup / Restore

• Posted by Pete Lomax <petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk> Feb 07, 2006
• 425 views

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:28:11 -0800, "Ricardo M. Forno"
<guest at RapidEuphoria.com> wrote:

>Hi all.
>
>I was looking in the Web for a program capable to backup Windows system files
>to later eventually restore them in case of malfunction.
>
>I found that all of these programs only backup system.dat and user.dat,
>that is, the Registry, plus some other small bits of information such as
>autoexec.bat, config.sys, etc.
>
>I have some questions about this, and hope some of you can answer them:
>
>1) Isn't also necessary to backup the files under \windows\system and its
>subdirectories, in order to make an effective backup? Because some
>software installation may replace .DLLs with newer, bad ones.
>I think also files under the \windows directory (but not subdirectories
>other than 'system') should be backuped. 

There is a builtin function called sfc (system file checker) which can
do part of this, at least on win98. It verifies the most critical 
system files and restores them from the installation CD.
>
>2) Is there an Euphoria program able to perform this task? I found none in
>The Archive.
>
>3) Is somebody aware of a program that can backup a directory in an
>incremental way? Because one might notice a malfuntion not immediately after
>a new software installation, but later, AFTER a backup was made,
>destroying the old, good backup; and backuping everything each time
>is dispendious.
There is some backup handling in Edita, though I am really talking 
about the edita.edb and restore side rather than the make backup side.
It happily copes with multiple copies of each file.

I might be interested in assisting with a program, run on a periodic 
basis, which maintains a full backup of specified files by checking 
them by date/time to see if they have been altered, and a gives 
warnings/allows semi-automated restoration. Let me know if you 
are interested. (I am rather busy on other stuff though.)

Regards,
Pete
PS my vision of such a program would be full GUI if run via exw, plain
DOS text mode if run via ex.exe (as needed in emergencies).

4. Re: System Backup / Restore

• Posted by Ricardo M. Forno <rmforno at tutopia.com> Feb 07, 2006
• 424 views

Wolf wrote:
> 
> > 1) Isn't also necessary to backup the files under \windows\system and its
> > subdirectories, in order to make an effective backup?
> 
> Depends which versions of Windows you're referring to, I'd guess.
> In normal WIN2000, if you try to do anything as simple as UPX'ing a system
> DLL,
> it's apparently 'instantly' replaced by
> a backup copy  ;-(
> 
> 

I use both WIN98 SE and WIN XP, but the focus of my question is WIN98, because
I'm using it, among other things, to test freeware.
Regards.

6. Re: System Backup / Restore

• Posted by don cole <doncole at pacbell.net> Feb 07, 2006
• 412 views

Pete Lomax wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:28:11 -0800, "Ricardo M. Forno"
> <guest at RapidEuphoria.com> wrote:
> 
> >Hi all.
> >
> >I was looking in the Web for a program capable to backup Windows system files
> >to later eventually restore them in case of malfunction.
> >
> >I found that all of these programs only backup system.dat and user.dat,
> >that is, the Registry, plus some other small bits of information such as
> >autoexec.bat, config.sys, etc.
> >
> >I have some questions about this, and hope some of you can answer them:
> >
> >1) Isn't also necessary to backup the files under \windows\system and its
> >subdirectories, in order to make an effective backup? Because some
> >software installation may replace .DLLs with newer, bad ones.
> >I think also files under the \windows directory (but not subdirectories
> >other than 'system') should be backuped. 
> 
> There is a builtin function called sfc (system file checker) which can
> do part of this, at least on win98. It verifies the most critical 
> system files and restores them from the installation CD.
> >
> >2) Is there an Euphoria program able to perform this task? I found none in
> >The Archive.
> >
> >3) Is somebody aware of a program that can backup a directory in an
> >incremental way? Because one might notice a malfuntion not immediately after
> >a new software installation, but later, AFTER a backup was made,
> >destroying the old, good backup; and backuping everything each time
> >is dispendious.
> There is some backup handling in Edita, though I am really talking 
> about the edita.edb and restore side rather than the make backup side.
> It happily copes with multiple copies of each file.
> 
> I might be interested in assisting with a program, run on a periodic 
> basis, which maintains a full backup of specified files by checking 
> them by date/time to see if they have been altered, and a gives 
> warnings/allows semi-automated restoration. Let me know if you 
> are interested. (I am rather busy on other stuff though.)
> 
> Regards,
> Pete
> PS my vision of such a program would be full GUI if run via exw, plain
> DOS text mode if run via ex.exe (as needed in emergencies).
> 
> 

Hello Pete and Ricardo,

I would think it would be faily simple to write a back up program in DOS.

Using

x = dir(st)--the system dir or any other Pertinent dirs
             system("copy [x][1]")
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You could make it as elaborate as you wanted.

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