1. Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Hey, guys 'n' gals... I need y'all's help. :)

I've got a program I've developed that seems to be unable to connect to my
server on a few PCs. Most of my clients- probably 95%- don't have a problem,
but there's a few that do.

If you would, go to http://support.formsonadisk.com/ and download the Forms
Manager to your PC. Run it. Click the "Support Dialog" button. The last two
items are "Forms Server" and "Web Server." It might take a second. If you get
a message that says "Cannot connect" for either the web server or forms server,
please let me know! I'll need your help diagnosing why some people can't
connect.

Thank you!!!!

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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In which Windows versions does it run? In Win95 when I click «Support Dialog» it
crashes.

Ex.err says:

.\winver.e:48 in function getWinOSVersion() 
variable OS has not been assigned a value 
    kernel32 = 3220635648

... called from foadnet_installer.exw:1016 in procedure bttn_Support_onClick()  
    self = 6
    event = 4
    params = {0}
    msg = <no value>
    vol = {325257173}
    install_path = {}
    jk = {70'F',111'o',114'r',109'm',115's',32' ',79'O',110'n',45'-',65'A',
45'-',68'D',105'i',115's',107'k',32' ',70'F',111'o',114'r',109'm',115's',
32' ',83'S',101'e',114'r',118'v',101'e',114'r',58':',32' ',67'C',111'o',
110'n',110'n',101'e',99'c',116't',105'i',111'o',110'n',32' ',77'M',97'a',
100'd',101'e',46'.'}
    ipath = {
              {},
              {78'N',111'o',116't',32' ',70'F',111'o',117'u',110'n',100'd'}
            }
    licloc = {0,0}
    licpath = {76'L',105'i',99'c',101'e',110'n',115's',101'e',32' ',102'f',
105'i',108'l',101'e',32' ',110'n',111'o',116't',32' ',102'f',111'o',117'u',
110'n',100'd',46'.'}
    fk = {70'F',111'o',114'r',109'm',115's',32' ',79'O',110'n',45'-',65'A',
45'-',68'D',105'i',115's',107'k',32' ',87'W',101'e',98'b',32' ',83'S',105'i',
116't',101'e',58':',32' ',67'C',111'o',110'n',110'n',101'e',99'c',116't',
105'i',111'o',110'n',32' ',77'M',97'a',100'd',101'e',46'.'}
    sID = {}

... called from C:\EU_INCLUDE\WIN32LIB\Win32Lib.ew:8400 in function
invokeHandler()
... 
...
...

JG

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3. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Julio C. Galaret Viera wrote:
> 
> In which Windows versions does it run? In Win95 when I click «Support Dialog»
> it crashes.
> 
> Ex.err says:
> 
> .\winver.e:48 in function getWinOSVersion() 
> variable OS has not been assigned a value 
>     kernel32 = 3220635648

I'm pretty sure it's worked for clients with Win95. I can see in the code
where you might get that error... but it is very strange! :) I've uploaded
a new version (2006.04.24). Can you try it for me? Thanks! :)

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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4. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Worked for me.

WinXP Pro

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5. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Evan Marshall wrote:
> 
> Worked for me.
> 
> WinXP Pro

Thanks for the report, Evan!

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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6. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

cklester wrote:
> 
> Julio C. Galaret Viera wrote:
> > 
> > In which Windows versions does it run? In Win95 when I click «Support
> > Dialog»
> > it crashes.
> > 
> > Ex.err says:
> > 
> > .\winver.e:48 in function getWinOSVersion() 
> > variable OS has not been assigned a value 
> >     kernel32 = 3220635648
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's worked for clients with Win95. I can see in the code
> where you might get that error... but it is very strange! :) I've uploaded
> a new version (2006.04.24). Can you try it for me? Thanks! :)
> 
> -=ck
> "Programming in a state of Euphoria."
> <a
> href="http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/">http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/</a>

It's that version that I'm using, but I downloaded it again and it crashes with
the same error.

JG

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7. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

cklester wrote:
> 
> Hey, guys 'n' gals... I need y'all's help. :)
> 
> I've got a program I've developed that seems to be unable to connect to my
> server on a few PCs. Most of my clients- probably 95%- don't have a problem,
> but there's a few that do.
> 
> If you would, go to <a
> href="http://support.formsonadisk.com/">http://support.formsonadisk.com/</a> and
> download the Forms
> Manager to your PC. Run it. Click the "Support Dialog" button. The last two
> items are "Forms Server" and "Web Server." It might take a second. If you get
> a message that says "Cannot connect" for either the web server or forms
> server,
> please let me know! I'll need your help diagnosing why some people can't
> connect.
> 
> Thank you!!!!
> 
> -=ck
> "Programming in a state of Euphoria."
> <a
> href="http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/">http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/</a>

Hi there,

Both said "Connection Made" for me.
XP Pro-SP2


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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8. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> cklester wrote:
> > 
> > Hey, guys 'n' gals... I need y'all's help. :)
> > 
> > I've got a program I've developed that seems to be unable to connect to my
> > server on a few PCs. Most of my clients- probably 95%- don't have a problem,
> > but there's a few that do.
> > 
> > If you would, go to <a
> > href="http://support.formsonadisk.com/">http://support.formsonadisk.com/</a>
> and download the Forms</font></i>
> > Manager to your PC. Run it. Click the "Support Dialog" button. The last two
> > items are "Forms Server" and "Web Server." It might take a second. If you
> > get
> > a message that says "Cannot connect" for either the web server or forms
> > server,
> > please let me know! I'll need your help diagnosing why some people can't
> > connect.
> > 
> > Thank you!!!!
> > 
> > -=ck
> > "Programming in a state of Euphoria."
> > <a
> > href="http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/">http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/</a>
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Both said "Connection Made" for me.
> XP Pro-SP2
> 
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
> 


Same here.
XP-Pro SP2 with F-Secure Antivirus & Firewall 

Regards,
         Erik-Jan

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9. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

cklester wrote:
> 
> Hey, guys 'n' gals... I need y'all's help. :)
> 
> I've got a program I've developed that seems to be unable to connect to my
> server on a few PCs. Most of my clients- probably 95%- don't have a problem,
> but there's a few that do.
> 
> If you would, go to <a
> href="http://support.formsonadisk.com/">http://support.formsonadisk.com/</a> and
> download the Forms
> Manager to your PC. Run it. Click the "Support Dialog" button. The last two
> items are "Forms Server" and "Web Server." It might take a second. If you get
> a message that says "Cannot connect" for either the web server or forms
> server,
> please let me know! I'll need your help diagnosing why some people can't
> connect.
> 
> Thank you!!!!
> 
> -=ck
> "Programming in a state of Euphoria."
> <a
> href="http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/">http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/</a>
I get :IL code not in the proper format.

Cute girl on your webpage though.

Don Cole
 A Bug is an un-documented feature.
 A Feature is a documented Bug.

Don Cole

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10. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Hello again cklester,

I don't think I mentioned I'm using Windows 2000.

Don Cole

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11. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

On my PC that is connected to the Internet, I connect OK to the Forms 
Server and the Web Server.

On my laptop, which is connected to a proxy server on the PC via an 
Ethernet, after granting connection to Mcafee firewall, neither 
connection is made.

The odd thing is, my proxy log shows no attempt
to connect to anything !?!?

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12. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

don cole wrote:
> 
> I get :IL code not in the proper format.

Yeah, that's why you gotta save it to your PC first. Try that and let me know
if it works.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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13. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Erik-Jan van Kampen wrote:
> > 
> > Both said "Connection Made" for me.
> > XP Pro-SP2
> 
> Same here.
> XP-Pro SP2 with F-Secure Antivirus & Firewall 

Thanks, Erik-Jan.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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14. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

cklester wrote:
> 
> Hey, guys 'n' gals... I need y'all's help. :)
> 
> I've got a program I've developed that seems to be unable to connect to my
> server on a few PCs. Most of my clients- probably 95%- don't have a problem,
> but there's a few that do.
> 
> If you would, go to <a
> href="http://support.formsonadisk.com/">http://support.formsonadisk.com/</a> and
> download the Forms
> Manager to your PC. Run it. Click the "Support Dialog" button. The last two
> items are "Forms Server" and "Web Server." It might take a second. If you get
> a message that says "Cannot connect" for either the web server or forms
> server,
> please let me know! I'll need your help diagnosing why some people can't
> connect.
> 
> Thank you!!!!
> 
> -=ck
> "Programming in a state of Euphoria."
> <a
> href="http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/">http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/</a>

As I expected, connection proceeds normally from home, without a proxy (WinXP).

I have earlier experience with deployment of apps in uncontrolled environments;
 some of the deployed apps cannot use the normal Internet data transmission 
protocol which was suposed to operate everywhere, because of proxies, after two 
years of relentless effort.

Unless somone has a very brilliant idea, you must come up with some 
alternative scheme, relying on email, floppies or such things, to perform the
 expected data exchange.

Note that all proxies don't necessarily block useful traffic; this all depends 
on the security policy each proxy server enforces, and on the way it does so.

CChris

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CChris wrote:
> 
> Note that all proxies don't necessarily block useful traffic; this all depends
> 
> on the security policy each proxy server enforces, and on the way it does so.

Thanks! That's some good info to have. Now to work on that alternative... :/

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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16. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Worked fine for me.  XP Home SP2.

Jonas Temple
http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple

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17. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Works on Windows 2000 SP4.
Using ZoneAlarm, no proxy.

Larry Miller

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18. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

cklester wrote:
> 
> don cole wrote:
> > 
> > I get :IL code not in the proper format.
> 
> Yeah, that's why you gotta save it to your PC first. Try that and let me know
> if it works.
> 
> -=ck
> "Programming in a state of Euphoria."
> <a
> href="http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/">http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/</a>

I downloaded 'Forms On-A-Disk Forms Manager.exe' to my myDls folder.
That should save it, right?
Then I double clicked it's icon and got said error.

Don Cole
 A Bug is an un-documented feature.
 A Feature is a documented Bug.

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19. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Works fine.

WinXP Prof SP2 + ZoneAlarm (No Proxy)

Regards,
Rad.

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20. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

I run Win98SE and a firewall. No proxy.

Results:

Forms On-A-Disk Form server: commection made
Forms On-A-Disk Web Site: connection made


~judith

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21. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

THANK YOU VERY MUCH to all the users who helped test the Forms Manager.  I know
I didn't get to thank each of you personally, but I've gotten every message and
I appreciate you all. If I were a billionaire, I'd give you all $100!!! :)

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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22. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

don cole wrote:
> cklester wrote:
> > don cole wrote:
> > > I get :IL code not in the proper format.
> > Yeah, that's why you gotta save it to your PC first. Try that and let me
> > know
> > if it works.
> I downloaded 'Forms On-A-Disk Forms Manager.exe' to my myDls folder.
> That should save it, right?
> Then I double clicked it's icon and got said error.

Sounds like you did everything right. RobC! What could be the problem here?
He seems to be the only one having that issue.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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cklester wrote:
> 
> THANK YOU VERY MUCH to all the users who helped test the Forms Manager.  I
> know
> I didn't get to thank each of you personally, but I've gotten every message
> and
> I appreciate you all. If I were a billionaire, I'd give you all $100!!! :)
> 
> -=ck
> "Programming in a state of Euphoria."

You're too kind, CK.  :)

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24. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

cklester wrote:
> 
> don cole wrote:
> > cklester wrote:
> > > don cole wrote:
> > > > I get :IL code not in the proper format.
> > > Yeah, that's why you gotta save it to your PC first. Try that and let me
> > > know
> > > if it works.
> > I downloaded 'Forms On-A-Disk Forms Manager.exe' to my myDls folder.
> > That should save it, right?
> > Then I double clicked it's icon and got said error.
> 
> Sounds like you did everything right. RobC! What could be the problem here?
> He seems to be the only one having that issue.

I seem to recall that he has the Binder package, and that
he had an old version of things on his PATH. Maybe he's 
running .il files using an old alpha or beta backendw.exe.
There was a change in the .il format between the alpha/beta
and the official 2.5 backendw.exe

The other possibility is corruption of a .il or .exe 
during the download.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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25. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Robert Craig wrote:
> 
> cklester wrote:
> > 
> > don cole wrote:
> > > cklester wrote:
> > > > don cole wrote:
> > > > > I get :IL code not in the proper format.
> > > > Yeah, that's why you gotta save it to your PC first. Try that and let me
> > > > know
> > > > if it works.
> > > I downloaded 'Forms On-A-Disk Forms Manager.exe' to my myDls folder.
> > > That should save it, right?
> > > Then I double clicked it's icon and got said error.
> > 
> > Sounds like you did everything right. RobC! What could be the problem here?
> > He seems to be the only one having that issue.
> 
> I seem to recall that he has the Binder package, and that
> he had an old version of things on his PATH. Maybe he's 
> running .il files using an old alpha or beta backendw.exe.
> There was a change in the .il format between the alpha/beta
> and the official 2.5 backendw.exe
> 
> The other possibility is corruption of a .il or .exe 
> during the download.
> 
> Regards,
>    Rob Craig
>    Rapid Deployment Software
>    <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>

I thought I had that all up streightened out.

If I did have an old binder package why would that effect anything?
He's sending me an .exe file that should work whether I have any Euphoria
programs installed in my computer or not.

None of my other Euphoria programs are having any trouble.

Maybe it's because I'm the only one using Windows 2000.



Don Cole

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26. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

don cole wrote:
> 
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > 
> > cklester wrote:
> > > 
> > > don cole wrote:
> > > > cklester wrote:
> > > > > don cole wrote:
> > > > > > I get :IL code not in the proper format.
> > > > > Yeah, that's why you gotta save it to your PC first. Try that and let
> > > > > me
> know</font></i>
> > > > > if it works.
> > > > I downloaded 'Forms On-A-Disk Forms Manager.exe' to my myDls folder.
> > > > That should save it, right?
> > > > Then I double clicked it's icon and got said error.
> > > 
> > > Sounds like you did everything right. RobC! What could be the problem
> > > here?
> > > He seems to be the only one having that issue.
> > 
> > I seem to recall that he has the Binder package, and that
> > he had an old version of things on his PATH. Maybe he's 
> > running .il files using an old alpha or beta backendw.exe.
> > There was a change in the .il format between the alpha/beta
> > and the official 2.5 backendw.exe
> > 
> > The other possibility is corruption of a .il or .exe 
> > during the download.
> > 
> > Regards,
> >    Rob Craig
> >    Rapid Deployment Software
> >    <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>
> 
> I thought I had that all up streightened out.
> 
> If I did have an old binder package why would that effect anything?
> He's sending me an .exe file that should work whether I have any Euphoria
> programs
> installed in my computer or not.
> 
> None of my other Euphoria programs are having any trouble.
> 
> Maybe it's because I'm the only one using Windows 2000.
> 
> 
> Don Cole


I tested that program twice on Win95 and the two failed as reported with the
same error.

But the second time I had to download twice the exe file because it gave the .IL
error posted by Don.
Looking at the exe file size I saw it was ~50k against ~450k it should be.
So, for me at least, the error came from a corruption of file during download.
I didn't report it because I thought it wasn't relevant.

JG

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27. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

don cole wrote:
> I thought I had that all up streightened out.
> 
> If I did have an old binder package why would that effect anything?
> He's sending me an .exe file that should work whether I have any Euphoria
> programs
> installed in my computer or not.

Sorry, I haven't been following this thread, and I didn't
try to download C.K.'s program, so I thought .il files
may have been involved. If you downloaded a bound .exe
and it gave you that message, then the download must have 
been corrupt, or incomplete. Try it again.
 
> None of my other Euphoria programs are having any trouble.
> 
> Maybe it's because I'm the only one using Windows 2000.

I don't think that has anything to do with it.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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28. Re: Need Help from 35 Euphoria Programmers

Rob,
I downloaded it again without error.

Julio,
Seeing I'm using Windows 2000 and you using Windows 95 maybe cklester should
look into why with pre XL OSs the file must be downloaded twice.

cklester,
Once downloaded and ran, your program sucessfully connnected to two websites.

Don Cole
 A Bug is an un-documented feature.
 A Feature is a documented Bug.

Don Cole

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