1. Another IDE Bug!
Judith,
I have tried and tried to resolve this, but the code is way too complicated
to me.
It seems the IDE won't respond to my voice commands. I tell it to, "Code
next killer app," and it just sits there. I also tried, "Create a game
that..." and gave a detailed description, but nothing!
Maybe you could fix this in the next release.
Thanks!!!
ck
2. Re: Another IDE Bug!
C.K.,
I can't seem to get the IDE to respond to voice commands either. However, I
have had *limited* success with voice commands in Windows. But at this
point, the only voice commands Windows seems to respond to with any
consistency are "Crash" and "Litter my hard-drive with junk". I think
that with this being the case, Judith probably put voice commands on hold
until some more useful commands can be implemented. :)
Virtual B
----- Original Message -----
From: C. K. Lester <cklester at yahoo.com>
To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: Another IDE Bug!
>
> Judith,
>
> I have tried and tried to resolve this, but the code is way too
complicated
> to me.
>
> It seems the IDE won't respond to my voice commands. I tell it to, "Code
> next killer app," and it just sits there. I also tried, "Create a game
> that..." and gave a detailed description, but nothing!
>
> Maybe you could fix this in the next release.
>
> Thanks!!!
> ck
>
>
>
>
>
>
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3. Re: Another IDE Bug!
I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor). Apparently
those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry. They also
do Windows...
-ck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Virtual B" <behaviorself at netzero.net>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
> C.K.,
>
> I can't seem to get the IDE to respond to voice commands either. However,
I
> have had *limited* success with voice commands in Windows. But at this
> point, the only voice commands Windows seems to respond to with any
> consistency are "Crash" and "Litter my hard-drive with junk". I think
> that with this being the case, Judith probably put voice commands on hold
> until some more useful commands can be implemented. :)
>
> Virtual B
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: C. K. Lester <cklester at yahoo.com>
> To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:24 PM
> Subject: Another IDE Bug!
>
>
> >
> > Judith,
> >
> > I have tried and tried to resolve this, but the code is way too
> complicated
> > to me.
> >
> > It seems the IDE won't respond to my voice commands. I tell it to, "Code
> > next killer app," and it just sits there. I also tried, "Create a game
> > that..." and gave a detailed description, but nothing!
> >
> > Maybe you could fix this in the next release.
> >
> > Thanks!!!
> > ck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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5. Re: Another IDE Bug!
Holy good God, you must be kidding. Like I said in a prior post, I'm NEVER
buying Windows XP (I'll pirate it if I *must* have it for some reason).
Microsoft has gone TOO FAR in their unethical, monopolistic behavior.
Besides that, every prior attempt they've made at developing a stable OS has
FAILED!!!
BTW, Wintel boxes have NOT "surpassed" Macs... I saw a G4 the other day
running Virtual PC, running Windows 95... It was really weird to see Windows
95 running in a Window on a Mac desktop. :)
-ck
>> I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor).
>> Apparently
>> those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry.
>> They also do Windows...
> A few years ago I would of agreed with you, but PC computers have
> surpassed the MAC. If you wait a few more months, Windows XP will
> finally be released. XP is th best thing Microsoft has developed
> since DOS or Win95.
>
> Chris
6. Re: Another IDE Bug!
On Friday 17 August 2001 11:01, president at insight-concepts.com wrote:
>
> C. K. Lester wrote:
> >I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor).
> >Apparently
> >those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry.
> >They also
> >do Windows...
>
> A few years ago I would of agreed with you, but PC computers have
> surpassed the MAC. If you wait a few more months, Windows XP will
> finally be released. XP is th best thing Microsoft has developed
> since DOS or Win95.
Microsoft "developed" DOS?
I don't think so.
If someone wanted to be very diplomatic about it, one might use the
word "appropriated".
See http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/msinc.html#dr
Quote:
1982 - Digital Research sues Microsoft and IBM - Wins - . It was obvious
MS-DOS and its PC-DOS variant were simply rip- offs of Digital Research's
CP/M operating system. It remained only to prove it contained DR code. DR's
Gary Kildall sat down at an IBM PC supplied by IBM and, using a secret code,
got it to pop up a Digital Research copyright notice.
It's case won, Digital Research received monetary compensation and the right
to clone MS-DOS. This is why Microsoft never sued DR over DR-DOS, but used
every other means to destroy it. The settlement was under a strict non-
disclosure agreement, so few even know DR sued, never mind that they won.
End Quote.
This is just one of a long list of cases where Microsoft has been sued for
"appropriating" someone else's work (and lost). We don't often hear of
these cases, because MS standard operating procedure is to pay off the
loss and demand a gag order regarding the settlement terms.
Regards,
Irv
7. Re: Another IDE Bug!
On Friday 17 August 2001 10:26, C. K. Lester wrote:
> I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor). Apparently
> those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry. They also
> do Windows...
When developing Windows programs, I feel lucky if I only have to
ctl-alt-del once or twice a day, when my program (or something else)
locks everything up.
For the past two months while I've been fooling with the Euphoria/GTK
library, I've had to re-boot exactly zero times due to lock-ups.
That's, of course, using Linux.
Considering it's the same pc, and the same careless programmer,
either Windows isn't all that good, or the astrological signs were
unfavorable.
Regards,
Irv
8. Re: Another IDE Bug!
That is quite interesting. Back in those days the Theos OS was around ( a
competitor to CP/M called OASIS) and Tim Wms also had a back door secret
code on OASIS. Do you think they expected ripoff's?? The story goes that
when IBM went looking for an OS for their PC they set up meetings with 3 of
the GRU's of the time, Bill, Tim, and one other I can't remember. Bill was
the only one with the business sense to show up for the meeting. The other's
did not. What a big mistake.....
...george
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irv Mullins" <irvm at ellijay.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
> On Friday 17 August 2001 11:01, president at insight-concepts.com wrote:
> >
> > C. K. Lester wrote:
> > >I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor).
> > >Apparently
> > >those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry.
> > >They also
> > >do Windows...
> >
> > A few years ago I would of agreed with you, but PC computers have
> > surpassed the MAC. If you wait a few more months, Windows XP will
> > finally be released. XP is th best thing Microsoft has developed
> > since DOS or Win95.
>
> Microsoft "developed" DOS?
> I don't think so.
> If someone wanted to be very diplomatic about it, one might use the
> word "appropriated".
>
> See http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/msinc.html#dr
>
> Quote:
> 1982 - Digital Research sues Microsoft and IBM - Wins - . It was obvious
> MS-DOS and its PC-DOS variant were simply rip- offs of Digital Research's
> CP/M operating system. It remained only to prove it contained DR code.
DR's
> Gary Kildall sat down at an IBM PC supplied by IBM and, using a secret
code,
> got it to pop up a Digital Research copyright notice.
>
> It's case won, Digital Research received monetary compensation and the
right
> to clone MS-DOS. This is why Microsoft never sued DR over DR-DOS, but used
> every other means to destroy it. The settlement was under a strict non-
> disclosure agreement, so few even know DR sued, never mind that they won.
>
> End Quote.
>
> This is just one of a long list of cases where Microsoft has been sued for
> "appropriating" someone else's work (and lost). We don't often hear of
> these cases, because MS standard operating procedure is to pay off the
> loss and demand a gag order regarding the settlement terms.
>
> Regards,
> Irv
>
>
>
>
>
9. Re: Another IDE Bug!
- Posted by euman at bellsouth.net
Aug 17, 2001
Interesting, I have an IBM and tried to use the Win NT 4
installation CD on another non-IBM machine and because
it's setup to read the BIOS the O/S wont install.
Me thinks IBM's been burned meybe more than once.... 
I personally have an issue with this because I bought the
damn CD when I purchased my IBM Machine..
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Walters" <gwalters at sc.rr.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 14:08
Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
> That is quite interesting. Back in those days the Theos OS was around ( a
> competitor to CP/M called OASIS) and Tim Wms also had a back door secret
> code on OASIS. Do you think they expected ripoff's?? The story goes that
> when IBM went looking for an OS for their PC they set up meetings with 3 of
> the GRU's of the time, Bill, Tim, and one other I can't remember. Bill was
> the only one with the business sense to show up for the meeting. The other's
> did not. What a big mistake.....
>
> ...george
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Irv Mullins" <irvm at ellijay.com>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
>
> >
> > On Friday 17 August 2001 11:01, president at insight-concepts.com wrote:
> > >
> > > C. K. Lester wrote:
> > > >I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor).
> > > >Apparently
> > > >those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry.
> > > >They also
> > > >do Windows...
> > >
> > > A few years ago I would of agreed with you, but PC computers have
> > > surpassed the MAC. If you wait a few more months, Windows XP will
> > > finally be released. XP is th best thing Microsoft has developed
> > > since DOS or Win95.
> >
> > Microsoft "developed" DOS?
> > I don't think so.
> > If someone wanted to be very diplomatic about it, one might use the
> > word "appropriated".
> >
> > See http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/msinc.html#dr
> >
> > Quote:
> > 1982 - Digital Research sues Microsoft and IBM - Wins - . It was obvious
> > MS-DOS and its PC-DOS variant were simply rip- offs of Digital Research's
> > CP/M operating system. It remained only to prove it contained DR code.
> DR's
> > Gary Kildall sat down at an IBM PC supplied by IBM and, using a secret
> code,
> > got it to pop up a Digital Research copyright notice.
> >
> > It's case won, Digital Research received monetary compensation and the
> right
> > to clone MS-DOS. This is why Microsoft never sued DR over DR-DOS, but used
> > every other means to destroy it. The settlement was under a strict non-
> > disclosure agreement, so few even know DR sued, never mind that they won.
> >
> > End Quote.
> >
> > This is just one of a long list of cases where Microsoft has been sued for
> > "appropriating" someone else's work (and lost). We don't often hear of
> > these cases, because MS standard operating procedure is to pay off the
> > loss and demand a gag order regarding the settlement terms.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Irv
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
10. Re: Another IDE Bug!
On Thursday 16 August 2001 17:57, euman at bellsouth.net wrote:
> Interesting, I have an IBM and tried to use the Win NT 4
> installation CD on another non-IBM machine and because
> it's setup to read the BIOS the O/S wont install.
If that worries you, take a look at the XP EULA. You can only
use it on one machine, and only as long as you don't "substantailly
modify" that machine. Just what constitutes a "substantial modification"?
That's entirely left to Microsoft to determine. You'll have to call them and
ask (beg?) for their permission to upgrade your pc. That's after you have
asked (begged) to use it in the first place.
It's like having to call Ford on the first of every month to see if I am
still allowed to drive my car. I mean, I probably put GAS in it, and maybe
even new tires, or a battery..... "Sorry, sir, you'll have to dispose of that
Ford and purchase a new one...."
I see this as just one giant step toward what Microsoft REALLY wants:
for us to pay monthly to use their OS, their software, or perhaps just to
remain on "their" planet.....
> I personally have an issue with this because I bought the
> damn CD when I purchased my IBM Machine..
Actually, no. Read the EULA. You agreed to their terms, supposedly,
which state that you can use it only as long as Microsoft feels like
letting you use it.
(A one-sided "agreement" by the way, which would be illegal if it
were for anything else, like a new car, for example)
Besides, you agreed to use it on only one machine.
You didn't know you were agreeing to that? Too bad.
Microsoft may make lousy software, but their lawyers are the
best money can brib -- er , buy.
Regards,
Irv
11. Re: Another IDE Bug!
Hi Euman,
I know that MS made dozens of OEM'ed versions (Other Equipment
Manufacturer) of DOS and Windows 3.X (I have some ancient Dell OEM'ed
diskettes somewhere) but I thought (but I'm probably wrong) that Windows NT
4.0 was just a standard CD burn. I've put Windows NT 4.0 on my (non-IBM)
PC from a CD with the following printed on the CD:
Microsoft Windows NT Workstation
Operating System Version 4.0
For Distribution Only with a New PC
Do Not Make Illegal Copies of This Disc
1-2 Processor Edition
(c) 1985-1996 Microsoft
Corporation. All rights reserved.
1096 Part No. 000-48303
I guess the important info is the Part Number stuff. If your Win NT 4.0 CD
ROM is the same as mine then I can't explain why you can't install it on
your non-IBM system. If your CD has different info on it them maybe you
have a "vendor locked" version which seems rather unfair.
Regards,
FP.
At 16:57 16/08/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Interesting, I have an IBM and tried to use the Win NT 4
>installation CD on another non-IBM machine and because
>it's setup to read the BIOS the O/S wont install.
>
>Me thinks IBM's been burned meybe more than once....
>
>I personally have an issue with this because I bought the
>damn CD when I purchased my IBM Machine..
>
>Euman
>euman at bellsouth.net
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "George Walters" <gwalters at sc.rr.com>
>To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 14:08
>Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
>
>>
>> That is quite interesting. Back in those days the Theos OS was around ( a
>> competitor to CP/M called OASIS) and Tim Wms also had a back door secret
>> code on OASIS. Do you think they expected ripoff's?? The story goes that
>> when IBM went looking for an OS for their PC they set up meetings with 3 of
>> the GRU's of the time, Bill, Tim, and one other I can't remember. Bill was
>> the only one with the business sense to show up for the meeting. The
other's
>> did not. What a big mistake.....
>>
>> ...george
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Irv Mullins" <irvm at ellijay.com>
>> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Friday 17 August 2001 11:01, president at insight-concepts.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > C. K. Lester wrote:
>> > > >I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor).
>> > > >Apparently
>> > > >those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry.
>> > > >They also
>> > > >do Windows...
>> > >
>> > > A few years ago I would of agreed with you, but PC computers have
>> > > surpassed the MAC. If you wait a few more months, Windows XP will
>> > > finally be released. XP is th best thing Microsoft has developed
>> > > since DOS or Win95.
>> >
>> > Microsoft "developed" DOS?
>> > I don't think so.
>> > If someone wanted to be very diplomatic about it, one might use the
>> > word "appropriated".
>> >
>> > See http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/msinc.html#dr
>> >
>> > Quote:
>> > 1982 - Digital Research sues Microsoft and IBM - Wins - . It was obvious
>> > MS-DOS and its PC-DOS variant were simply rip- offs of Digital Research's
>> > CP/M operating system. It remained only to prove it contained DR code.
>> DR's
>> > Gary Kildall sat down at an IBM PC supplied by IBM and, using a secret
>> code,
>> > got it to pop up a Digital Research copyright notice.
>> >
>> > It's case won, Digital Research received monetary compensation and the
>> right
>> > to clone MS-DOS. This is why Microsoft never sued DR over DR-DOS, but
used
>> > every other means to destroy it. The settlement was under a strict non-
>> > disclosure agreement, so few even know DR sued, never mind that they won.
>> >
>> > End Quote.
>> >
>> > This is just one of a long list of cases where Microsoft has been sued
for
>> > "appropriating" someone else's work (and lost). We don't often hear of
>> > these cases, because MS standard operating procedure is to pay off the
>> > loss and demand a gag order regarding the settlement terms.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Irv
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
12. Re: Another IDE Bug!
- Posted by euman at bellsouth.net
Aug 17, 2001
I have a vendor locked edition..But the O/S was part of
the purchase of the machine...
Yes it does state that you may use this on only one machine
so tell me, why if I formated the IBM and put LINUX on
that box (which I did) now I have a drink coaster....
Euman
euman at bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: <freeplay at mailandnews.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 17:50
Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
> Hi Euman,
>
> I know that MS made dozens of OEM'ed versions (Other Equipment
> Manufacturer) of DOS and Windows 3.X (I have some ancient Dell OEM'ed
> diskettes somewhere) but I thought (but I'm probably wrong) that Windows NT
> 4.0 was just a standard CD burn. I've put Windows NT 4.0 on my (non-IBM)
> PC from a CD with the following printed on the CD:
>
> Microsoft Windows NT Workstation
> Operating System Version 4.0
> For Distribution Only with a New PC
> Do Not Make Illegal Copies of This Disc
> 1-2 Processor Edition
> (c) 1985-1996 Microsoft
> Corporation. All rights reserved.
> 1096 Part No. 000-48303
>
> I guess the important info is the Part Number stuff. If your Win NT 4.0 CD
> ROM is the same as mine then I can't explain why you can't install it on
> your non-IBM system. If your CD has different info on it them maybe you
> have a "vendor locked" version which seems rather unfair.
>
> Regards,
>
> FP.
>
> At 16:57 16/08/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >Interesting, I have an IBM and tried to use the Win NT 4
> >installation CD on another non-IBM machine and because
> >it's setup to read the BIOS the O/S wont install.
> >
> >Me thinks IBM's been burned meybe more than once....
> >
> >I personally have an issue with this because I bought the
> >damn CD when I purchased my IBM Machine..
> >
> >Euman
> >euman at bellsouth.net
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "George Walters" <gwalters at sc.rr.com>
> >To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 14:08
> >Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
> >
> >
> >>
> >> That is quite interesting. Back in those days the Theos OS was around ( a
> >> competitor to CP/M called OASIS) and Tim Wms also had a back door secret
> >> code on OASIS. Do you think they expected ripoff's?? The story goes that
> >> when IBM went looking for an OS for their PC they set up meetings with 3 of
> >> the GRU's of the time, Bill, Tim, and one other I can't remember. Bill was
> >> the only one with the business sense to show up for the meeting. The
> other's
> >> did not. What a big mistake.....
> >>
> >> ...george
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Irv Mullins" <irvm at ellijay.com>
> >> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Friday 17 August 2001 11:01, president at insight-concepts.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > C. K. Lester wrote:
> >> > > >I think I'll switch to OS X on a PowerMac G4 (dual processor).
> >> > > >Apparently
> >> > > >those guys are not only fast, but they do the dishes and laundry.
> >> > > >They also
> >> > > >do Windows...
> >> > >
> >> > > A few years ago I would of agreed with you, but PC computers have
> >> > > surpassed the MAC. If you wait a few more months, Windows XP will
> >> > > finally be released. XP is th best thing Microsoft has developed
> >> > > since DOS or Win95.
> >> >
> >> > Microsoft "developed" DOS?
> >> > I don't think so.
> >> > If someone wanted to be very diplomatic about it, one might use the
> >> > word "appropriated".
> >> >
> >> > See http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/msinc.html#dr
> >> >
> >> > Quote:
> >> > 1982 - Digital Research sues Microsoft and IBM - Wins - . It was obvious
> >> > MS-DOS and its PC-DOS variant were simply rip- offs of Digital Research's
> >> > CP/M operating system. It remained only to prove it contained DR code.
> >> DR's
> >> > Gary Kildall sat down at an IBM PC supplied by IBM and, using a secret
> >> code,
> >> > got it to pop up a Digital Research copyright notice.
> >> >
> >> > It's case won, Digital Research received monetary compensation and the
> >> right
> >> > to clone MS-DOS. This is why Microsoft never sued DR over DR-DOS, but
<snip>
>
>
13. Re: Another IDE Bug!
----- Original Message -----
From: Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
> When developing Windows programs, I feel lucky if I only have to
> ctl-alt-del once or twice a day, when my program (or something else)
> locks everything up.
>
> For the past two months while I've been fooling with the Euphoria/GTK
> library, I've had to re-boot exactly zero times due to lock-ups.
> That's, of course, using Linux.
If I'd be using linux for something it would be because it is supposed not
to crash so often like Windows, whose crashes are just horrible,
esspecially Internet Explorer crashes all the time. But, everything else is
good, so I'll stick with Windows.
linux is flying off my drive right now.
14. Re: Another IDE Bug!
I didn't catch who wrote this:
> > I know that MS made dozens of OEM'ed versions (Other Equipment
> > Manufacturer)
But OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer. Since it is obvious MS didn't
make the equipment the OS ran on, it makes no sense to call the company
who made that equipment the Other Equipment Manufacturer.
Kat
15. Re: Another IDE Bug!
On Friday 17 August 2001 16:08, Tone Skoda wrote:
> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
>
> > When developing Windows programs, I feel lucky if I only have to
> > ctl-alt-del once or twice a day, when my program (or something else)
> > locks everything up.
> >
> > For the past two months while I've been fooling with the Euphoria/GTK
> > library, I've had to re-boot exactly zero times due to lock-ups.
> > That's, of course, using Linux.
>
> If I'd be using linux for something it would be because it is supposed not
> to crash so often like Windows, whose crashes are just horrible,
> esspecially Internet Explorer crashes all the time. But, everything else is
> good, so I'll stick with Windows.
> linux is flying off my drive right now.
That's fine, if you don't have anything important to do.
I have customers, some of whom could lose tens of thousands of
dollars if Windows crashes on them at the wrong time (is there ever
a right time?) If the last backup was made 1 hour ago, then everybody
in the shop has to do that hour's work all over again. Even if they don't
lose any data, there's the non-productive time spent rebooting and
trying to get back onto the network.
I'm converting as many as possible to Linux.
Regards,
Irv
16. Re: Another IDE Bug!
I keep pressing CTRL+S (saving) when writing code, it's in habit now, so
almost never has happened to me that I lost some of my work. Mostly IE
crashes, although when i sometimes run some simple .ex program with maybe
nothing in it, or just simple statement, like puts (), it completely blocks
my computer.
You have to remeber not to have unsaved work somewhere and starting a
euphoria program at the same time.
----- Original Message -----
From: Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
Subject: Re: Another IDE Bug!
>
> On Friday 17 August 2001 16:08, Tone Skoda wrote:
> > >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
> >
> > > When developing Windows programs, I feel lucky if I only have to
> > > ctl-alt-del once or twice a day, when my program (or something else)
> > > locks everything up.
> > >
> > > For the past two months while I've been fooling with the Euphoria/GTK
> > > library, I've had to re-boot exactly zero times due to lock-ups.
> > > That's, of course, using Linux.
> >
> > If I'd be using linux for something it would be because it is supposed
not
> > to crash so often like Windows, whose crashes are just horrible,
> > esspecially Internet Explorer crashes all the time. But, everything else
is
> > good, so I'll stick with Windows.
> > linux is flying off my drive right now.
>
> That's fine, if you don't have anything important to do.
> I have customers, some of whom could lose tens of thousands of
> dollars if Windows crashes on them at the wrong time (is there ever
> a right time?) If the last backup was made 1 hour ago, then everybody
> in the shop has to do that hour's work all over again. Even if they don't
> lose any data, there's the non-productive time spent rebooting and
> trying to get back onto the network.
>
> I'm converting as many as possible to Linux.
>
> Regards,
> Irv
>
>
>
>
>
>
17. Re: Another IDE Bug!
I don't know why your vendor locked Win NT 4.0 install CD won't allow a
re-install on the very same machine. Perhaps the original install was
never performed with the CD you have. Maybe they used a different CD and
the CD you have was already "drinks coaster" material from day one 
As it happens I have a spare Win NT 4.0 install CD I'd be happy to donate.
Email me privately if your interested (use either of my email addresses - I
check both every time I go online).
Regards,
FP.
At 20:51 16/08/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I have a vendor locked edition..But the O/S was part of
>the purchase of the machine...
>
>Yes it does state that you may use this on only one machine
>so tell me, why if I formated the IBM and put LINUX on
>that box (which I did) now I have a drink coaster....
>
>Euman
>euman at bellsouth.net
18. Re: Another IDE Bug!
At 02:41 18/08/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I didn't catch who wrote this:
>> > I know that MS made dozens of OEM'ed versions (Other Equipment
>> > Manufacturer)
>But OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer. Since it is obvious MS didn't
>make the equipment the OS ran on, it makes no sense to call the company
>who made that equipment the Other Equipment Manufacturer.
>Kat
Yep that was me - sorry my bad. I stand correctly corrected and not for
the first or I'm sure the last time 
Regards,
FP.
19. Re: Another IDE Bug!
On Saturday 18 August 2001 16:02, Tone Skoda wrote:
>
> I keep pressing CTRL+S (saving) when writing code, it's in habit now, so
> almost never has happened to me that I lost some of my work. Mostly IE
> crashes, although when i sometimes run some simple .ex program with maybe
> nothing in it, or just simple statement, like puts (), it completely blocks
> my computer.
> You have to remeber not to have unsaved work somewhere and starting a
> euphoria program at the same time.
I have a client who uses IE to look up prices on a supplier's
website, and enters them into a VB accounting package. If IE freezes,
the VB data files get corrupted, usually ending up with a lot of html
code where customer's invoices used to be. Not a good thing.
What's worse is that VB doesn't detect the error, just ignores the html,
and naturally the account balances are screwed up. Luckily, he uses
a Euphoria program to print the statements, and Euphoria does see the
garbage, and reports an error.
Regards,
Irv
