1. Euphoria Accreditation?

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                                                              TOTUS TUUS

G'day, Im an Australian teenager who picked up Euphoria about a year ago. I've
found it very good. I feel confident making basic programs and have read through
as many tutorials as possible. However, I cannot see how this can be made to
count on a resume. Knowing how to program in Euphoria is great, but seems a bit
futile unless I can get employed at it. What can I do to get some recognition,
like some sort of accreditation?

Thanks a lot,
Michael.



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<P>G'day, Im an Australian teenager who picked up Euphoria about a year ago.
I've found it very good. I feel confident making basic programs and have read
through as many tutorials as possible. However, I cannot see how this can be made
to count on a resume. Knowing how to program in Euphoria is great, but seems a
bit futile unless I can get employed at it. What can I do to get some
recognition, like some sort of accreditation?</P>
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2. Re: Euphoria Accreditation?

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Perhaps any potential employer wil be sufficiently impressed at your ability to
learn and work on your own and that logical and technical reasons do not
intimidate you  :)
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  From: mick15_hello at yahoo.com 
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  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:54 AM
  Subject: Euphoria Accreditation?


                                                                TOTUS TUUS

G'day, Im an Australian teenager who picked up Euphoria about a year ago. I've
  found it very good. I feel confident making basic programs and have read through
  as many tutorials as possible. However, I cannot see how this can be made to
  count on a resume. Knowing how to program in Euphoria is great, but seems a bit
  futile unless I can get employed at it. What can I do to get some recognition,
  like some sort of accreditation?

  Thanks a lot,
  Michael.






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  <P>G'day, Im an Australian teenager who picked up Euphoria about a year ago. 
  I've found it very good. I feel confident making basic programs and have read 
  through as many tutorials as possible. However, I cannot see how this can be 
  made to count on a resume. Knowing how to program in Euphoria is great, but 
  seems a bit futile unless I can get employed at it. What can I do to get some 
  recognition, like some sort of accreditation?</P>
  <P>Thanks a lot,<BR>Michael.</P>
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3. Re: Euphoria Accreditation?

On Friday 08 February 2002 09:54 am, mick15_hello at yahoo.com wrote:

> G'day, Im an Australian teenager who picked up Euphoria about a year ago.
> I've found it very good. I feel confident making basic programs and have
> read through as many tutorials as possible. However, I cannot see how this
> can be made to count on a resume. Knowing how to program in Euphoria is
> great, but seems a bit futile unless I can get employed at it. What can I
> do to get some recognition, like some sort of accreditation?

Euphoria is useless on a resume'. 
It's a good way to get into programming, however, because you can actually 
write fairly useful programs with it, and go on to learn three or four other 
languages, which WILL go on your resume'.

Also, if you happen to write something useful in Euphoria, and people are 
really impressed with it, why should you tell them what language you used?
My answer would be: "I always choose the most appropriate tool for the job", 
which is kinder than saying "you wouldn't have a clue if I told you" - which 
is most often the case.

You should be aware of two things: 
1 Whatever language you learn now will most likely be out of style in three 
or four years. 
2. Having the ability to (quickly) learn something new is more valuable than 
knowing the old (out of  style) stuff backwards and forwards - assuming you 
can't do both.

Accreditation for programmers is like accreditation for musicians. I can read 
music, and know where all the keys are on a piano - so I could pass the test, 
right?

For some reason, however, nobody wants to hear me play.

Regards,
Irv

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4. Re: Euphoria Accreditation?

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Quite simple, really !
Just write a " WOW, this is a really unique and useful... " application in
Euphoria that everyone will want to BUY and use !
... and, there's your accreditation.  blink

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Just write a " WOW, this is a really unique and useful... " 
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5. Re: Euphoria Accreditation?

Hi Irv,

On 8 Feb 2002, at 13:15, Irv Mullins wrote:


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> 1 Whatever language you learn now will most likely be out of style in three or
> four years. 2. Having the ability to (quickly) learn something new is more
-<snip>-

Well, I disagree. I can show you a handful of programming languages that still 
fully operational and 'in style' these days, but I'll tell you just one: COBOL! 
My first language and one that I particularly hate. ;)

Cheers,

-- Euler

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6. Re: Euphoria Accreditation?

<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger>Hi Mick,


I liked your 'totus tuus'. It shows faith and belief. Not in Euphoria or any 
other programming language, but in your own skills. To handle anything you get, 
using whatever you have in hands, that's all accreditation you need. ;)


Cheers!


-- Euler


On 8 Feb 2002, at 6:54, mick15_hello at yahoo.com wrote:


 TOTUS TUUS

G'day, Im an Australian teenager who picked up Euphoria about a year ago. I've 
found it very good. I feel confident making basic programs and have read 
through as many tutorials as possible. However, I cannot see how this can be 
made to count on a resume. Knowing how to program in Euphoria is great, but 
seems a bit futile unless I can get employed at it. What can I do to get some 
recognition, like some sort of accreditation?

Thanks a lot,
Michael.





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7. Re: Euphoria Accreditation?

On Friday 08 February 2002 09:53 pm, Euler German wrote:

> Well, I disagree. I can show you a handful of programming languages that
> still fully operational and 'in style' these days, but I'll tell you just
> one: COBOL! My first language and one that I particularly hate. ;)

There'll always be a need for people to support legacy applications, 
but job postings you see now talk about xml, php, Java, ASP, and VB.
As an example, see the survey here: 
http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO54574,00.html

For example: 10% of the companies surveyed planned to hire COBOL 
programmers in 2002, while 36% planned to hire Java programmers.

I've seen a good bit of discussion lately that indicates that Java is 
losing its appeal, as well. Who knows whats next?

Regards,
Irv

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