1. RE: EDS Editor?
It's not that I haven't thought about it...given the flexible nature of
EDS it would be difficult to determine if a sequence is a sequence of
numbers or a sequence of characters. You would also have to have ways
to limit the amount of data that could be entered and type (for instance
a date or time sequence).
I think Tone's EDS Viewer is as close as anything out there to
accomplishing this and I think I remember reading somewhere (either in
the documentation or on this list) that Tone was thinking about adding
editing functionality. It would also be nice to be able to define the
record layout as well.
When Matt worked on SQL for the EDS he was trying to create a definition
template that would describe each element of a sequence in terms of
type, length, etc. It seems to me that a tool to edit a record would
also have to have this template.
Maybe it's time to unite and come up with a concensus on a definition
template for EDS? Any thoughts?
Jonas
C. K. Lester wrote:
> How come nobody's made a EUPHORIA database editor yet? Is it that
> difficult?!
>
> (You know, where you can open up the database and make changes to it
> then
> close it again.)
>
>
2. RE: EDS Editor?
C. K. Lester wrote:
> How come nobody's made a EUPHORIA database editor yet? Is it that
> difficult?!
>
> (You know, where you can open up the database and make changes to it
> then
> close it again.)
>
>
I Would love to see such an editor but given how flexible Euphoria's
sequences and sub sequences are this would be a difficult task indeed. I
know in some of my data bases one record in a given table may have 4
fields and the next record may have 5 fields with sub fields so to
speak.
Regards Tony
3. RE: EDS Editor?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonas Temple [mailto:jktemple at yhti.net]
> C. K. Lester wrote:
> > How come nobody's made a EUPHORIA database editor yet? Is it that
> > difficult?!
> >
> > (You know, where you can open up the database and make
> changes to it
> > then
> > close it again.)
It's on my TODO list (which moves very slowly these days). My plan is to
update EuCOM, and use the grid control for an editor base to work with
EuSQL. Of course, this wouldn't be a generic editor for any EDS database,
but I'd like to do a nice front end a-la MS Access.
> When Matt worked on SQL for the EDS he was trying to create a
> definition
> template that would describe each element of a sequence in terms of
> type, length, etc. It seems to me that a tool to edit a record would
> also have to have this template.
>
> Maybe it's time to unite and come up with a concensus on a definition
> template for EDS? Any thoughts?
I doubt we'll ever get anything like that, although Tone's approach is
probably the best way for a totally generic EDS editor. I think a lot
depends on the amount of overhead you're willing to deal with to standardize
the data.
Matt Lewis
4. RE: EDS Editor?
Yeah, you're right. The other "gotcha" here would be if you created a
"template" in your database table that described the data all you would
have to do is delete the record that contains the "template" and then
what do you do? It seems to me that the "template" would have to be a
part of the table definition, not an actual record in the table.
I have thought about changing database.e myself but it's too
intimidating.
Jonas
Matthew Lewis wrote:
> > Maybe it's time to unite and come up with a concensus on a definition
> > template for EDS? Any thoughts?
>
> I doubt we'll ever get anything like that, although Tone's approach is
> probably the best way for a totally generic EDS editor. I think a lot
> depends on the amount of overhead you're willing to deal with to
> standardize
> the data.
5. RE: EDS Editor?
Most of my programing is DB related, I would like to have a peek.
Tony
a.c.harper at btinternet.com wrote:
> I have written a DBMS for EDS, with a slightly extended database.e.
> There is
> some documentation, not complete yet.
>
> The DBMS does not keep track of field names, and has a specific record
> 'header' to each record (i.e. you cannot use it to manipulate a 'raw'
> EDS
> database), although you can copy data in. Instructions can be typed in
> at a
> command prompt or called from within your own program. It is effectively
> a
> hierachical DBMS as you can link records into sets, as well as the usual
> database commands.
>
> I can only claim 'alpha' release status - is anyone interested in giving
> it
> a whirl? It will take about a week to extend the documentation.
>
>
> Bunjo.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tone.skoda at siol.net>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: EDS Editor?
>
>
> > It wouldn't be so hard to add edit functionality to Edsgui.
> > I have already done plan how it would be done back then. (You have to
> > plan
> > things else it won't be good.)
> > For example: you would be able to add new records in two ways:
> > Type euphoria sequence with curly braces in edit box or right click on
> > existing tree item and add data under it.
> > More difficult would be to add undo/redo, but I have done plan how that
> > would be done also.
> >
> > I don't know if I will ever do it though. Maybe when I have some time.
> >
> > There is one other point: viewer is far more needed/usefull than editor.
> You
> > usually make your database with eu program and then view it, mostly for
> > debugging.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Steward" <tony at locksdownunder.com>
> > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:33 AM
> > Subject: RE: EDS Editor?
> >
> >
> > > C. K. Lester wrote:
> > > > How come nobody's made a EUPHORIA database editor yet? Is it that
> > > > difficult?!
> > > >
> > > > (You know, where you can open up the database and make changes to it
> > > > then
> > > > close it again.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I Would love to see such an editor but given how flexible Euphoria's
> > > sequences and sub sequences are this would be a difficult task indeed. I
> > > know in some of my data bases one record in a given table may have 4
> > > fields and the next record may have 5 fields with sub fields so to
> > > speak.
> > >
> > > Regards Tony
> > >
> > >
