1. cry for help
Hey, Guys,
I do not know how to do it, but I think we have to find a way how to
separate Bill's followers from the sane remnants of the Euphorian
crowd. No doubt, some of you will remember and accuse me again from
just another fit of random Windows smashing, but I cannot take it any
more! I will never understand why anybody would want to muse, almost
endlessly, how to elicit any sort of retarded response from a second
rate operating system. And, unfortunately, that's precisely what
Micro$oft friends are forcing us to read about all the time. I agree,
the people who want to do it, should be allowed to do it, but, please,
only from the relative safety of a specially built asylum.
Or even better, can we perhaps have a three-way split, to get rid of
the Linux nuts as well? jiri
2. Re: cry for help
Jiri, you are right as usual. The computer world prodictivity slows
to a crawl whenever Windows enters the picture. However, that is where the
money is...so love it or starve. Sorry, it is a cruel world. Bye, Grumpy Art
>just another fit of random Windows smashing, but I cannot take it any
>more! I will never understand why anybody would want to muse, almost
>endlessly, how to elicit any sort of retarded response from a second
Arthur P. Adamson, The Engine Man, euclid2 at email.com
3. Re: cry for help
Jiri Babor wrote:
> ... Bill's followers from the sane remnants ...
> ... retarded response from a second rate operating system ...
> ... Micro$oft friends are forcing us ...
> ... specially built asylum ...
> ... get rid of Linux nuts ...
Yes, ad hominem are certainly satisfying to write. I should know; I've
written my fair share of them.
Why not just suggest splitting the group into Win32 and DOS users?
-- David Cuny
4. Re: cry for help
At 12:30 4/6/99 +1200, jiri babor wrote:
>Hey, Guys,
>
>I do not know how to do it, but I think we have to find a way how to
>separate Bill's followers from the sane remnants of the Euphorian
>crowd. No doubt, some of you will remember and accuse me again from
>just another fit of random Windows smashing, but I cannot take it any
>more! I will never understand why anybody would want to muse, almost
>endlessly, how to elicit any sort of retarded response from a second
>rate operating system. And, unfortunately, that's precisely what
>Micro$oft friends are forcing us to read about all the time. I agree,
>the people who want to do it, should be allowed to do it, but, please,
>only from the relative safety of a specially built asylum.
>
>Or even better, can we perhaps have a three-way split, to get rid of
>the Linux nuts as well? jiri
Jiri,
Upon inspecting the header of your message, I found this line:
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
So either your message was a troll or you are one of same
people you're complaining about. Should we make room for
you in the asylum? 
--
Don Groves
5. Re: cry for help
At 07:35 PM 4/5/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Why not just suggest splitting the group into Win32 and DOS users?
>
>-- David Cuny
>
>
Because Windows is just aa clownsuit for DOS :) hehe (what should i say i
made the frontend so i have to be silent :))))
But nice to meet you David (EE ?) :)
I like the editor and its my editor on the frontend right now. Thanks for
that great Editor .
:) I working on that helpfile and have about 100 topics finished right now
(Euphoria Commands G in the alphabetical Reference) (zip compressed 200 kb) :))
that includes Refman.doc and Library.doc
I might put all together :) but i will see :)
Greetings Harry
<<---- Builder of the Euphoria 2.1 Frontend for Windows 95/98 ---->> Just
ask for it :)
ICQ # 23724435
6. Re: cry for help
Don,
From your confused reaction I have to assume you are one of the Bill's
victims too. You know, in the real world, there is a big difference between
an occasional use (especially when there are virtually no alternatives
allowed) and active promotion of the vile stuff. jiri
Don Groves <groves at ACM.ORG> on 06-04-99 06:45:31
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cc: (bcc: Jiri Babor/GNS)
Subject: Re: cry for help
At 12:30 4/6/99 +1200, jiri babor wrote:
>Hey, Guys,
>
>I do not know how to do it, but I think we have to find a way how to
>separate Bill's followers from the sane remnants of the Euphorian
>crowd. No doubt, some of you will remember and accuse me again from
>just another fit of random Windows smashing, but I cannot take it any
>more! I will never understand why anybody would want to muse, almost
>endlessly, how to elicit any sort of retarded response from a second
>rate operating system. And, unfortunately, that's precisely what
>Micro$oft friends are forcing us to read about all the time. I agree,
>the people who want to do it, should be allowed to do it, but, please,
>only from the relative safety of a specially built asylum.
>
>Or even better, can we perhaps have a three-way split, to get rid of
>the Linux nuts as well? jiri
Jiri,
Upon inspecting the header of your message, I found this line:
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
So either your message was a troll or you are one of same
people you're complaining about. Should we make room for
you in the asylum?
--
Don Groves
7. Re: cry for help
> Why not just suggest splitting the group into Win32 and DOS users?
> -- David Cuny
You are right, David, but where is your sense of humour? jiri
8. Re: cry for help
Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS:
If / when the mailing list ever does get split it should be split into a general
list for Euphoria issues and a list for each platform supported.
Currently that would be:
* Euphoria - General
* Euphoria - DOS32 specific
* Euphoria - Win32 specific
* Euphoria - Linux specific
There should be a Linux list because there is already much discussion.
For me personally I don't think it needs to be split yet, I'm interested in
hearing what others are doing even if it doesn't affect me.
Ray Smith
>> Why not just suggest splitting the group into Win32 and DOS users?
>
>> -- David Cuny
>
>You are right, David, but where is your sense of humour? jiri
>
9. Re: cry for help
Jiri Babor replied:
>> Why not just suggest splitting the group into Win32 and DOS users?
> You are right, David, but where is your sense of humour? jiri
Sorry... when I first got the post, I tried several times to find some
hidden humour, but it just came off as mean-spirited. It didn't help that
I'm one of those "nuts" promoting both the Win32 and Linux platforms
(although 99% of the time I code in DOS).
No offense taken, though.
On the matter of splitting the group, I agree with Ray Smith - there doesn't
seem to be cause yet.
-- David Cuny
10. Re: cry for help
At 10:55 4/6/99 +1200, Jiri Babor wrote:
>Don,
>
>>From your confused reaction I have to assume you are one of the Bill's
>victims too. You know, in the real world, there is a big difference between
>an occasional use (especially when there are virtually no alternatives
>allowed) and active promotion of the vile stuff. jiri
Jiri,
Yes, I know there's a big difference. However, it seems a bit
cheesy to me to slam M$ products while using them yourself.
(At least use a Mac or something Plus, I thought the subject
at hand was Euphoria. I've not seen anyone on this list engaged in
"active promotion" of M$ stuff, did I miss something?
No, I'm not one of Bill's victims. I very much dislike the way he
does business and I'm not fond of his products. Right now, all I
have is a 3 year old NT box, but I've already decided my next box will
be a G3 PowerMac running MacOS, MkLinux and BeOS (if Be ever gets off
their duff and supports the G3). I'll be completely Wintel free.
--
Don
>
>Don Groves <groves at ACM.ORG> on 06-04-99 06:45:31
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>Please respond to Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS
><EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
>
>
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> To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
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> cc: (bcc: Jiri Babor/GNS)
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> Subject: Re: cry for help
>>At 12:30 4/6/99 +1200, jiri babor wrote:
>>Hey, Guys,
>>
>>I do not know how to do it, but I think we have to find a way how to
>>separate Bill's followers from the sane remnants of the Euphorian
>>crowd. No doubt, some of you will remember and accuse me again from
>>just another fit of random Windows smashing, but I cannot take it any
>>more! I will never understand why anybody would want to muse, almost
>>endlessly, how to elicit any sort of retarded response from a second
>>rate operating system. And, unfortunately, that's precisely what
>>Micro$oft friends are forcing us to read about all the time. I agree,
>>the people who want to do it, should be allowed to do it, but, please,
>>only from the relative safety of a specially built asylum.
>>
>>Or even better, can we perhaps have a three-way split, to get rid of
>>the Linux nuts as well? jiri
>
>Jiri,
>Upon inspecting the header of your message, I found this line:
>
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
>
>So either your message was a troll or you are one of same
>people you're complaining about. Should we make room for
>you in the asylum?
>--
>Don Groves
11. Re: cry for help
Jiri Babor wrote:
>
> > Why not just suggest splitting the group into Win32 and DOS users?
>
> > -- David Cuny
>
> You are right, David, but where is your sense of humour? jiri
In an asylum?
:^)
--
Regards,
Daniel Berstein
[daber at pair.com]
12. Re: cry for help
Don Groves wrote:
> No, I'm not one of Bill's victims. I very much dislike the way he
> does business and I'm not fond of his products. Right now, all I
> have is a 3 year old NT box, but I've already decided my next box will
> be a G3 PowerMac running MacOS, MkLinux and BeOS (if Be ever gets off
> their duff and supports the G3). I'll be completely Wintel free.
Smart move. Have you read Be's faqs about G3... it's not their fault,
Apple is rotten (with worm and everything). Anyways may I suggest a PII
box with SuSE/RedHat and BeOs.
BTW I'm available to beta-test, co-develop or whatever, Euphoria on
Linux (2.0.39, soon 2.2.5) and BeOS R4. PEU already compiles succesfully
on both platforms. Rob, do you want to send me something? Someday?
13. Re: cry for help
At 01:21 4/6/99 -0400, Daniel Berstein wrote:
>Don Groves wrote:
>
>> No, I'm not one of Bill's victims. I very much dislike the way he
>> does business and I'm not fond of his products. Right now, all I
>> have is a 3 year old NT box, but I've already decided my next box will
>> be a G3 PowerMac running MacOS, MkLinux and BeOS (if Be ever gets off
>> their duff and supports the G3). I'll be completely Wintel free.
>
>Smart move. Have you read Be's faqs about G3... it's not their fault,
>Apple is rotten (with worm and everything)...
No, I haven't read them. Thanks for the tip.
--
Don Groves
