1. AW: Virtual processor
Hi Jan,
Did you ever think about if its possible to "programm a
1 Ghz Processor" just on a 200 MHz-"Real life CPU".
If it would be possible,the Intel stocks would fall
to a quarter and BMW would immediately stop to produce=20
cars with big motors.=20
They would just "re-program" their small cars.
So first ... there are virtual CPU-Proramms out there
(www.vmware.com ?), but the real CPU does all the work, its not
"stopped".
Second: if you stop the real CPU its like when you're
sleeping (and not dreaming ...): Nothing happens.
(Of course something happens ... but who=20
knows about ?).
Have fun
--Theo
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Von: alojz.hancic at siol.net [mailto:alojz.hancic at siol.net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. M=E4rz 2001 19:55
An: EUforum
Betreff: Re: Virtual procesor
Hi all
I think you miss understanded me. I was traying to ask you if it is =
posible
to write a program that woud bee like a procesor so you coud swich off =
the
real procesor and use the virtual one.
Lep Pozdrav
Jan
2. Re: AW: Virtual processor
- Posted by Kat <gertie at PELL.NET>
Mar 30, 2001
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Last edited Mar 31, 2001
On 30 Mar 2001, at 7:41, T.Gottwald at DEUTSCHEPOST.DE wrote:
> If it would be possible,the Intel stocks would fall
> to a quarter and BMW would immediately stop to produce
> cars with big motors.
> They would just "re-program" their small cars.
I didn't know BMW made any cars with motors. There are some
programmable motors and programmable engines, but they tend to be
buggy, pricey, and not meet emission standards.
> So first ... there are virtual CPU-Proramms out there
> (www.vmware.com ?), but the real CPU does all the work, its not
> "stopped".
>
> Second: if you stop the real CPU its like when you're
> sleeping (and not dreaming ...): Nothing happens.
> (Of course something happens ... but who
> knows about ?).
Doesn't the cpu in a mac go idle, at least part time, if you plug in a virtual
pc
card? In the C64, i think the 6510 went idle if you plugged in an 8085 or Z80
card. Someone once sold daughter cards for PCs that carried various cpus
too, and in some cases there was significant speedup,, but i grant you it was
all in hardware. Still, if someone with a 386 in Russia could plug in a cheap
1Ghz daughter card, it might be useful. The successfull breaking of RSA was
done on a PC, and the cpu did very little work, the real horsepower was in
the FPGAs on daughter cards laying all over the tabletop.
Kat
3. Re: AW: Virtual processor
- Posted by Euman <euman at bellsouth.net>
Mar 30, 2001
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Last edited Mar 31, 2001
Kat wrote:
> I didn't know BMW made any cars with motors. There are some
> programmable motors and programmable engines, but they tend to be
> buggy, pricey, and not meet emission standards.
>
You just said every auto made after 1985 is buggy, pricey and dont
meet emission standards.........
\(with the exception of 4WD Off-Road upto 1988)
I'll bet your ride has a computer.........the question is how much of a bet
do you want to make?
Each of the computers (diff with manufacturer) can be re-programmed.
The big thing to study up on if your an enterprising young person right now
are Electric cars and even Hydrogen power.......The future is soon.
Of-Course, you could take electronics and create an infinite power sys
(My best is 96% if only I could eliminate the 4% drain.)
Hint: transmission actuator
Euman
4. Re: AW: Virtual processor
- Posted by Kat <gertie at PELL.NET>
Mar 30, 2001
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Last edited Mar 31, 2001
On 30 Mar 2001, at 21:49, Euman wrote:
>
> Kat wrote:
> > I didn't know BMW made any cars with motors. There are some
> > programmable motors and programmable engines, but they tend to be
> > buggy, pricey, and not meet emission standards.
> >
>
> You just said every auto made after 1985 is buggy, pricey and dont
> meet emission standards.........
> \(with the exception of 4WD Off-Road upto 1988)
Well, actually, i meant the actual hardware being programmable,
not the engine controller. It is possible to en/disable individual valves,
change valve timing while the engine is running, change effective
combustion chamber volume while the engine is running, change from 4cycle
to 2cycle and back again while running,, and even stop the engine, then
restart it running (properly) in reverse. Motor controllers can change the
motor from series wound, shunt wound, or compound wound. Many home
AC motors start with a split phase configuration, but run with straight
induction. I have seen a AC motor that even changed the impedance of the
rotor while running, i turned it into a DC motor that changed from a series
wound to a compound config after startup, limiting max noload rpm.
> I'll bet your ride has a computer.........the question is how much of a bet do
> you want to make?
>
> Each of the computers (diff with manufacturer) can be re-programmed.
>
> The big thing to study up on if your an enterprising young person right now
> are
> Electric cars and even Hydrogen power.......The future is soon.
Heh, i had an electric in the mid 70's. I bought a VW with no engine, dropped
in a heavy golf cart motor with class F insulation, batteries, etc, and drove it
to/from work for about a year. Oddly, atm my `79 Z car has a great engine
that won't quit, and the body is totally rusting out, or i'd make it into an
electric too someday. The power lines for the charger are already run out to
the driveway. I'd use a different motor this time. A *few* lead-acid or Nicad
batteries, and the more advanced new fuel cells, the newer rare-earth PM AC
motors, and it would be easy to make an electric with looooonnnng range
and lots of get-up-n-go. Well, i did order some materials for a thermal solar
trough-type power generator yesterday, i have lots of flat roof, made just for
this purpose. 
.
> Of-Course, you could take electronics and create an infinite power sys
> (My best is 96% if only I could eliminate the 4% drain.)
> Hint: transmission actuator
I made a stable infinite power generator, problem is, the required materials
don't exist, and it only stored power, not made it, and it would work only in
outer space on the dark side of a planet. Oh well, i wasn't going there
anyhow.
Kat
5. Re: AW: Virtual processor
Look for a book called "What the Government doesnt want you to know"
Euman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Bensler" <bensler at mailops.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 01:35
Subject: RE: AW: Virtual processor
>
>
>
> Euman wrote:
> > The big thing to study up on if your an enterprising young person right
> > now
> > are Electric cars and even Hydrogen power.......The future is soon.
> >
>
> H20 engines are the future.. more power than gas, and nearly infinite
> supply of fuel.. to top it all, 0% emissions..Along the same lines as
> Hyrodgen engines..
> You can buy one for your car if you have about $2,000,000 for the
> conversion..
>
> > Of-Course, you could take electronics and create an infinite power sys
> > (My best is 96% if only I could eliminate the 4% drain.)
> > Hint: transmission actuator
>
> 96% is pretty damn good. Didn't even think that was possible..
> even if you were running the engine in 0-G's, in a vacuum, using fibre
> optics, or even lasers to tramsit the current, there is is still
> friction, and electrical resistance.. meaning you can never achive 100%
> efficiency.. it's unheard of..
>
> I beleive, eventually, we will be able to eliminate the friction factor,
> once we have nanotechnolgy, but that still leaves electrical resistance,
> which there is no way around.. it takes power to send power..
>
> People have dreamed of perpetual motion machines for centuries..
> Leonardo DaVinci, tried his hand at it even..
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
6. Re: AW: Virtual processor
On 31 Mar 2001, at 9:03, Euman wrote:
>
> Look for a book called "What the Government doesnt want you to know"
Does it include the source code to the government yet?
Kat
7. Re: AW: Virtual processor
- Posted by kwibus at ZONNET.NL
Apr 01, 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kat" <gertie at PELL.NET>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: AW: Virtual processor
> I made a stable infinite power generator, problem is, the required
materials
> don't exist, and it only stored power, not made it, and it would work only
in
> outer space on the dark side of a planet. Oh well, i wasn't going there
> anyhow.
>
> Kat
I think I understand now: 'Kat' is shorthand for Captain Kathryn Janeway. Am
I right?
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