1. you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

On 1 Aug 2005, at 16:00, Ferlin Scarborough wrote:

> Why would you want to take Euphoria and completely RUIN it by adding pointers
> and structures, that would make it confusing for a hobbiest programmer to 
use

And everyone else has been saying "hobbiest" also. There's no such word!! 

As best as i can figure, "hobbiest" is possibly something that is more of a 
hobby than something else, maybe, but it's like saying "Euphoria is more 
hobby than Perl". It's been grating on my hide, people!

Kat

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2. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

Kat wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1 Aug 2005, at 16:00, Ferlin Scarborough wrote:
> 
> 
>>Why would you want to take Euphoria and completely RUIN it by adding pointers
>>and structures, that would make it confusing for a hobbiest programmer to 
> 
> use
> 
> And everyone else has been saying "hobbiest" also. There's no such word!! 
> 
> As best as i can figure, "hobbiest" is possibly something that is more of a 
> hobby than something else, maybe, but it's like saying "Euphoria is more 
> hobby than Perl". It's been grating on my hide, people!
> 
> Kat
> 
What, just the speling or the connotation of hobbyist?
                    ^sp

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3. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

I am hobbier than thou.  I am the hobbiest!

Also, there has been entirely too much use of to to mean too.  This has GOT
to stop!

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4. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

Evan Marshall wrote:
> 
> I am hobbier than thou.  I am the hobbiest!
> 
> Also, there has been entirely too much use of to to mean too.  This has GOT
> to stop!
> 

Yes, this is execrable stuff indeed.  And there is "your" as in "your the
bestest humanoid", when "you're the bestest humanoid" is clearly meant.  Another
crime is the common "it's maw is around my leg" when "its maw is around my leg
and it's time to go!" is more like it.

Western civilization is sliding down that sodden and slippery slope, for
certain.

--Quark

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5. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

Your all wrong, cause I'm the hobbiest and all them what be leaves
otherwise, there all wrong to and they can't do nothing about it!

I don't no wear they get of telling me whose the hobbiest!

Gordon

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6. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

Evan Marshall wrote:
> 
> I am hobbier than thou.  I am the hobbiest!
> 
> Also, there has been entirely too much use of to to mean too.  This has GOT
> to stop!
> 
While we are at it:

Too many Euphorians are using  the lower case i to mean the first person 

singular I.

Don Cole,
SF

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7. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

On 2 Aug 2005, at 17:37, Jason Gade wrote:

> 
> Kat wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 1 Aug 2005, at 16:00, Ferlin Scarborough wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Why would you want to take Euphoria and completely RUIN it by adding
> >>pointers
> >>and structures, that would make it confusing for a hobbiest programmer to 
> > 
> > use
> > 
> > And everyone else has been saying "hobbiest" also. There's no such word!! 
> > 
> > As best as i can figure, "hobbiest" is possibly something that is more of a
> > hobby than something else, maybe, but it's like saying "Euphoria is more
> > hobby
> > than Perl". It's been grating on my hide, people!
> > 
> > Kat
> > 
> What, just the speling or the connotation of hobbyist?
>                     ^sp

The spelling, grrrrrrrrrrrrr! I don't know if people are learning from each
other
on this list to spell incorrectly or not, but if that is the case, i got
educated
before 1970, and i care about it! In english we have a selection of suffixes 
and prefixes, and they each have a meaning. Therefore, "hobbiest" makes no 
sense!

Kat

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8. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

On 2 Aug 2005, at 21:27, don cole wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: don cole <doncole at pacbell.net>
> 
> Evan Marshall wrote:
> > 
> > I am hobbier than thou.  I am the hobbiest!
> > 
> > Also, there has been entirely too much use of to to mean too.  This has GOT
> > to
> > stop!
> > 
> While we are at it:
> 
> Too many Euphorians are using  the lower case i to mean the first person 
> 
> singular I.

I put forth that uppercase 'i' to mean one's self is improper, and is riding the
coattails of British royalty. No other pronoun is capitalised, except when 
royalty refers to itself as "We" or "Our", a grandiose display of egoism i can 
do without, even if You cannot. But i will consent to spell "i" properly.

Kat

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9. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

Kat wrote:
> 
> On 2 Aug 2005, at 21:27, don cole wrote:
> 
> > 
> > posted by: don cole <doncole at pacbell.net>
> > 
> > Evan Marshall wrote:
> > > 
> > > I am hobbier than thou.  I am the hobbiest!
> > > 
> > > Also, there has been entirely too much use of to to mean too.  This has
> > > GOT to
> > > stop!
> > > 
> > While we are at it:
> > 
> > Too many Euphorians are using  the lower case i to mean the first person 
> > 
> > singular I.
> 
> I put forth that uppercase 'i' to mean one's self is improper, and is riding
> the
> coattails of British royalty. No other pronoun is capitalised, except when 
> royalty refers to itself as "We" or "Our", a grandiose display of egoism i can
>
> do without, even if You cannot. But i will consent to spell "i" properly.
> 
> Kat
> 
> 

I don't know much about a link between 'I' and British royalty. All I know is
that capitalizing it makes it much easier on the eyes (!) when reading.

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Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

j.

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10. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

Kat wrote:
> 
> On 2 Aug 2005, at 21:27, don cole wrote:
> 
> > 
> > posted by: don cole <doncole at pacbell.net>
> > 
> > Evan Marshall wrote:
> > > 
> > > I am hobbier than thou.  I am the hobbiest!
> > > 
> > > Also, there has been entirely too much use of to to mean too.  This has
> > > GOT to
> > > stop!
> > > 
> > While we are at it:
> > 
> > Too many Euphorians are using  the lower case i to mean the first person 
> > 
> > singular I.
> 
> I put forth that uppercase 'i' to mean one's self is improper, and is riding
> the
> coattails of British royalty. No other pronoun is capitalised, except when 
> royalty refers to itself as "We" or "Our", a grandiose display of egoism i can
>
> do without, even if You cannot. But i will consent to spell "i" properly.
> 
> Kat


Hi,

It is probably better to do as you have decided to do: to spell the capital "I"
according to common usage for the simple reason that to proclaim humility by
conspicuously using lowercase "i" is a contradiction.  It has the effect of
shining a spotlight on oneself as being humbler than the other thou's.  I never
see that lowercase "i" as being other than by an egotist proud of being more
unassuming than others.

A related affectation is the use either of all uppercase or lowercase.  The
message seems to be: "I am so busy and focused that I have no time to use the
shift key; I leave that to drones..."  But to me it says:  "I am a raving *******
and here is my questionable opinion."

--Quark

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11. Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest

DB James wrote:
> 
> A related affectation is the use either of all uppercase or lowercase.  The
> message
> seems to be: "I am so busy and focused that I have no time to use the shift
> key; I
> leave that to drones..."  But to me it says:  "I am a raving ******* and here
> is my
> questionable opinion."

sorry, but since i've been using the internet, my use of capital letters has
decreased exponentially  such that now i don't use them anymore (or rarely).
and it's not because i'm a raving group of asterisks,  either, nor do i find
that my opinions are questionable. but that's just my opinion. :P

-=ck
"Programming in a state of EUPHORIA."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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